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08-22-2010, 01:32 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by Apocrypha
I've seen it 2 times now in my journeys visiting churches here in S. Florida to get ideas for our new church. Talking to the pastors about it they both present it as a icebreaker.
One of them was clever... the played Don't Fear the Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult when doing a series on the afterlife and heaven. I can give them a pass for creativity and a sense of humor.
But Granger Community Church which is a trendsetter for the post moderns recently opened with a Poison song.
http://www.alittleleaven.com/2010/08...aise-song.html
Click on link below to view it in their worship service and give your thoughts. Its a growing trend out there.
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Unskinny bop?
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08-22-2010, 01:36 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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The other song I saw in another church was Dani California by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. That one made me squirm in a church, that made me check off another box in my "I have seen it all in church" list.
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Not Aeroplane?
"I like pleasure spiked with pain
and music is my aeroplane, is my aeroplane"
There has to be a gospel message in there somewhere
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-22-2010, 01:38 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
How about some Guns n Roses
Knockin on Heaven's door
"Mama put my guns in the ground
I can't shoot them anymore
That cold black cloud is comin' down
Feels like I'm knockin' on heaven's door
Knock-knock-knockin' on heaven's door
Knock-knock-knockin' on heaven's door
Knock-knock-knockin' on heaven's door
Knock-knock-knockin' on heaven's door"
How about some old school Eddie Money
Two Tickets to Paradise
"I'm gonna take you on a trip so far from here,
I've got two tickets in my pocket, now baby, we're gonna disappear.
We've waited so long, waited so long.
We've waited so long, waited so long.
I've got two tickets to paradise,
Won't you pack your bags, we'll leave tonight,
I've got two tickets to paradise,
I've got two tickets to paradise."
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-22-2010, 01:41 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
Personally I think it can be useful if it's tied into the message, but Im sure some people will be offended and because of that I think it's better not to. At the same time I think those that get offended have to realize we don't all react the same way they might to that kind of stuff if it does happen
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-22-2010, 02:32 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
I HATE IT
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08-22-2010, 03:06 PM
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Tired of it.
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
I hope we all know that GNR just covered Knockin on Heaven's Door. Mr Bob Dylan wrote and performed long ago.
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08-22-2010, 03:08 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by jfrog
I can't see that song in church either. It's a great song though!
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But is it ok in your car? And if it's ok in your car, why would it be wrong in the church? The building isn't "The Church." "WE" are the church.
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08-22-2010, 03:10 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by Apocrypha
Im not attacking the concept, but I can see where it can easily lead to unbalance.
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How so? I saw NewSpring do "Beat it" to start a service during their current series, "I Love The 80's". Is that imbalance?
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08-22-2010, 03:11 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
I think it can be appropriate or not. Just live everything else. Content, spirit, intent all matter.
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08-22-2010, 03:11 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by Sherri
We've used a few secular songs in times past, but I think you have to be very careful. There are people who got saved and walked away from all their secular music, and hearing it in church conjures up images of times past that weren't so good. It can be confusing.
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I don't see why a person, who gets saved, needs to walk away from all their "secular" music.
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