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08-23-2010, 11:05 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Duck! 
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I need more patience like I need a hole in the head. I am on the floor trying to avoid the shrapnel of patience flying around the room.
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08-23-2010, 11:24 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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I need more patience like I need a hole in the head. I am on the floor trying to avoid the shrapnel of patience flying around the room.
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I need patience and I need it NOW!!!!!
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08-23-2010, 11:42 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
NOW????? You talking about Not Of Works? I miss that dude. Oh wait you actually mean 'NOW' like N.O.W. My bad.
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08-23-2010, 11:46 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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NOW????? You talking about Not Of Works? I miss that dude. Oh wait you actually mean 'NOW' like N.O.W. My bad.
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I've never been an expert at patience.
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08-23-2010, 11:49 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
Back in the day one thing almost all coverts did was clear their homes of all worldly ungodonly music being convicted by the spirit of God. Now folks are holding on to these things,
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08-23-2010, 11:51 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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I've never been an expert at patience.
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Not many people are. Isn't it funny that if you ask God for patience that it seems that things come right away and test your patience?
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08-23-2010, 11:52 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Back in the day one thing almost all coverts did was clear their homes of all worldly ungodonly music being convicted by the spirit of God. Now folks are holding on to these things,
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I saw this too. Mainly they were convicted by Sis. or Bro. So and So that talked them into being convicted. Just my experience.
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08-24-2010, 12:04 AM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Not many people are. Isn't it funny that if you ask God for patience that it seems that things come right away and test your patience?
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So if i have a lust problem a bunch of half naked women will come to my house?
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08-24-2010, 12:08 AM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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You didn't offend me, you hurt me. I'm tired of pouring out my guts to you, being readily available to you when you needed help, praying for you over the phone on my vacation and helping you through your tough times while I carried luggage to my hotel room, and continuing to hear from you how people like me don't believe in commitment.
Stop judging me and others like me!!!! You have no right.
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Mr. Smith is indeed my friend. We have similar philosphies in reaching people, but definetly different methods.
However, I haven't posted these things in direct opposition of a friend who I know loves people, and does teach the word. Who has made sacrifices that some of us cannot even imagine having to make.
I posted my thoughts and response to those who are not teaching biblical salvation. Biblical salvation includes repentance. Any church NOT teaching that, is I believe watering down the gospel. For those churches that do teach the gospel message, but use methods I am uncomfortable with, I may disagree, but I rejoice in that Christ is being preached.
I am a proponent of the thought process which says "our methods must change, but our message must stay the same."
If the cross is the message, then I'm not speaking against the message. At the same time, I reserve the right to share my opinion as others have shared theirs. I NEVER at any time have purposely tried to or set out to offend or hurt anyone.
I don't agree with alot of things here on AFF, some think I'm much too hard line and conservative, and others think I'm a charismatic who promotes easy believism. Recently on CARM I've taken a beating for being a "fake oneness" amongst other, umm, compliments.
So I guess when you post, you can't please everyone, but again, I don't post to hurt anyone, and I want my friend, Mr. Smith, as well as all others to realize that.
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08-24-2010, 08:37 AM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
Mr. Smith is indeed my friend. We have similar philosphies in reaching people, but definetly different methods.
However, I haven't posted these things in direct opposition of a friend who I know loves people, and does teach the word. Who has made sacrifices that some of us cannot even imagine having to make.
I posted my thoughts and response to those who are not teaching biblical salvation. Biblical salvation includes repentance. Any church NOT teaching that, is I believe watering down the gospel. For those churches that do teach the gospel message, but use methods I am uncomfortable with, I may disagree, but I rejoice in that Christ is being preached.
I am a proponent of the thought process which says "our methods must change, but our message must stay the same."
If the cross is the message, then I'm not speaking against the message. At the same time, I reserve the right to share my opinion as others have shared theirs. I NEVER at any time have purposely tried to or set out to offend or hurt anyone.
I don't agree with alot of things here on AFF, some think I'm much too hard line and conservative, and others think I'm a charismatic who promotes easy believism. Recently on CARM I've taken a beating for being a "fake oneness" amongst other, umm, compliments.
So I guess when you post, you can't please everyone, but again, I don't post to hurt anyone, and I want my friend, Mr. Smith, as well as all others to realize that.
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After reading your PM, I think the actual issue here just might be that you don't really know what a "Seeker" church is. You included a few churches in your list that aren't within a million galaxies of being "Seeker" and are, instead, far-out, whacko, charismatic TBN churches. I'll respond later.
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