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09-10-2010, 07:32 PM
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Re: Life Church Houston
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Originally Posted by Socialite
If one believes JK is off in false doctrine, then I guess they'd see it differently, and actually apply the call to "care of the sheep of God" to even those who are delusionally attended his church.
And does the situational specifics matter? Some pastors use the "calling out" card for saints who leave their church regardless of the situation, them being bated or not.
I tend to agree with your depiction of the rod here while also fearing Christendom being nothing more than people clubbing each other to death.
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Even if he or anyone was off in "false" doctrine a minister has no right telling anyone to stop going there. At least not publically. We are able to judge for ourselves whether the church we attend is where we should be going or not. If you (anyone) believes that the church is teaching "falsely" then it is incumbent on you (anyone) to get up and go.
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09-10-2010, 08:09 PM
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Re: Life Church Houston
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
Even if he or anyone was off in "false" doctrine a minister has no right telling anyone to stop going there. At least not publically. We are able to judge for ourselves whether the church we attend is where we should be going or not. If you (anyone) believes that the church is teaching "falsely" then it is incumbent on you (anyone) to get up and go.
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I don't know, J TUL. I'm pretty sure if believers were following a leader that was preaching "another gospel," Paul would have spoken up.
A leader I know gave me his two cents on this. If you are the pastor (JK is) that is in community with these believers who are having pastors try to pull these away (for reasons that are adding to the Gospel), he has very right to denounce these men. If you are someone not involved, not in community with the men, then it's not your concern or business. Some would argue the evangelist had a right since he was connected to the church as one who ministers there frequently. This is a mess. But it leaves me asking/looking/searching for a biblical model to resolve this.
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09-10-2010, 09:15 PM
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Re: Life Church Houston
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Originally Posted by Socialite
I don't know, J TUL. I'm pretty sure if believers were following a leader that was preaching "another gospel," Paul would have spoken up.
A leader I know gave me his two cents on this. If you are the pastor (JK is) that is in community with these believers who are having pastors try to pull these away (for reasons that are adding to the Gospel), he has very right to denounce these men. If you are someone not involved, not in community with the men, then it's not your concern or business. Some would argue the evangelist had a right since he was connected to the church as one who ministers there frequently. This is a mess. But it leaves me asking/looking/searching for a biblical model to resolve this.
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Good thoughts. IDK what the right way to go is. But I woulda have a hard time telling any one to leave any church. I am probably more liberal than some and I would never tell anyone to leave a ultra con church. That is not me. I would tell them, if they asked me, to use wisdom in their decision because there are a lot of people that it can affect, but the most important ones are their own family.
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09-10-2010, 10:14 PM
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Re: Life Church Houston
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Good thoughts. IDK what the right way to go is. But I woulda have a hard time telling any one to leave any church. I am probably more liberal than some and I would never tell anyone to leave a ultra con church. That is not me. I would tell them, if they asked me, to use wisdom in their decision because there are a lot of people that it can affect, but the most important ones are their own family.
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take it to the elders with 2 other witnesses
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09-10-2010, 10:17 PM
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Re: Life Church Houston
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take it to the elders with 2 other witnesses
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09-11-2010, 11:07 AM
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Re: Life Church Houston
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take it to the elders with 2 other witnesses
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Assuming these elders have elders in common of course.
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09-11-2010, 11:35 AM
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Re: Life Church Houston
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I recently heard that a popular UPCI evangelist has been telling saints to leave and not attend Life Church in Houston. Any insight or knowledge of this?
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Big deal. I heard there are people encouraging everyone to leave every UPC church. 
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09-11-2010, 04:05 PM
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Re: Life Church Houston
Would that be the "Were Pretty Phatt.Org" group ?
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09-11-2010, 05:30 PM
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Re: Life Church Houston
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Would that be the "Were Pretty Phatt.Org" group ?
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Oh no, I think the phatt folks are very much at home there.
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09-13-2010, 08:09 AM
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Re: Life Church Houston
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I wish it would "go Charismatic"....we need the gifts operating
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Bump!!!! 
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