How Much is Too Much

[BeenThinkin]

Hey, Hoovie, can you see what I'm wearing?

And another thing Admins, why don't you make it a rule that everyone has to read their post before they submit it? I'm convinced that some never look back at what they have said and much of their post is posted faster than their brain can kick in! (This is probably a good example of what I'm trying to say! )

BeenThinkin

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

Hey, Hoovie, can you see what I'm wearing?

And another thing Admins, why don't you make it a rule that everyone has to read their post before they submit it? I'm convinced that some never look back at what they have said and much of their post is posted faster than their brain can kick in! (This is probably a good example of what I'm trying to say! )

BeenThinkin

I don't know about Hoovie, but I can see what you're wearing and my first reaction is, what you've got on was very cool.........in 1978. Come on out to Cali and I'll take you shopping!

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

Hey, Hoovie, can you see what I'm wearing?

And another thing Admins, why don't you make it a rule that everyone has to read their post before they submit it? I'm convinced that some never look back at what they have said and much of their post is posted faster than their brain can kick in! (This is probably a good example of what I'm trying to say! )

BeenThinkin

uhhh! It's what you aren't wearing that bothers me!

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

You know, if ya'll really wanna clean up the forum, start infracting spelling, grammar, and word usage errors.

And just to show balance we'll extend it to haircuts as well.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

And just to show balance we'll extend it to haircuts as well.

You keep making hurtful remarks about my hair and my feelings are starting to get hurt.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

You keep making hurtful remarks about my hair and my feelings are starting to get hurt.

It's ok, Smithy, he used to call me a headbanger all the time. Hoovie just projects. I think he may have a lot of pent-up frustration. I think he wished he were a cool-haired headbanger.

[Hoovie]

Smithy and NOW, One of the VERY FEW fond memories I have of your "kind" of headbanger music was Jammin to Starship in a horse drawn buggy. No one could ever figure out why old Charlie (my friend's horse) couldn't keep a steady, decent pace... He always wanted to break into a gallop (not a good buggy gait)!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsdj9NRzqC4

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Lol - - - I don't think it would be wise to give the opinions of admins publically. We try to be fair and balanced.

Funny thing though, Epley didn't bother me at all and he would post bobbed haired women were going to hell.

Okay - - that's how he feels and you know it. Do I agree with it - nope, but I could talk until I'm blue in the face and he'll never change his mind. So, I respect him and he always showed me respect.

So...

I went back and reflected on the subject of this thread and what is liked and disliked here on the forum. And, there is something I don't understand.

Tell me.....why is it that people like Steve Epley can say some of the most outrageous things in the history of Christianity....and I'll list two:

1) "I'd rather my children be alcoholics and drug addicts than be baptized in the titles";
2) "All trinitarians are going to hell";
3) Heck, let's do three...."A man can go to heaven with a beard but not from my church."
4) And of course, his bigotry statements, "Lost as two.......". I can't bring myself to type the rest of it.

....and yet everyone wants him and his type, back? But meanwhile, guys like DA (The UPC critic and grace fanatic), me (The seeker-sensitive, no-tongues, Pelosi-protector-guy), Timmy (the agnostic), and WalksinIslam (The Muslim), are the bad guys that supposedly have hurt the forum? Sorry, but I don't understand that.

I mean, we're able to work with all kinds, and for the record, I'd LOVE to see Epley & Company back. They're fun to talk to, and sometimes laugh at, and they create a fuss and fusses are good for forums, in general. But them?? They can't deal with anyone except their own kind, for the most part.

I know people get irritated at Timmy but you gotta give the guy credit...he walks into an Apostolic forum, doesn't believe in God's personal touch with mankind, and he takes us ALL on!! What could be wrong with a guy like that? And then we go to our yearly soul-winning service, shed a tear about the lost, and then here's Timmy and a Muslim walking right among us and what do we want to do? Get their butts outta here!!!

And if I'm so messed up in my views on tongues and being Spirit-filled without them, and doing secular rock music in church, and wearing shredded jeans to preach in, and defending Nancy Pelosi against Christian hate-speech and mockery, then straighten me out!

And if DA is so wrong in his so-called "attacks" on the UPC, then answer his questions and defend the organization's honor. When he goes after a UPC pastor with a TV program, who yearly signs an affirmation statement swearing he won't watch TV, then find a way tell Dan where he's wrong.

These seem to be simple concepts, but somehow, we're the bad guys. I suppose I don't understand that.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

There's been a LOT of bellyaching lately about how negative AFF has become. Many cons have left claiming that AFF has become a haven for angry, anti-UPC (and the like) people.

So how much is too much? What should be allowed and what should not be allowed? Should all negative opinions be censored? Should this become a good-ole-boys club that banishes the DA-types who aggressively point out the inefficiencies and supposed hypocrisies of UPC people and UPC types?

I believe it's possible, maybe even likely, that the "Cons" who've left, did so because they couldn't defend their position. However, they're gone and it's blamed on the naysayers. Those that remain are very unhappy and even several that are not at all "Cons" are getting antsy.

So two questions:

1) How much is too much?

2) Who, on the forum, would you like to see gone?

Personally, I believe the conservatives should stay and continue the discussion. Many of them have wonderful insights. However, I think that the issue is that most of them couldn't uphold ALL of their positions biblically. So they left.

[Sister Alvear]

Yeah, my Amish friends think I am so worldly...my Jehovah's Witness's friends keep thinking I read things into the Bible but one of them did tell me Jehovah will not destoy me because I am sincere and the light will shine on my pathway...
Lost as two boys kissing??? I don't use that expression I just say just as lost aa those that don't believe in women preachers...ha....
lol...I woke up in a teasing mode today....

On the serious side I really don't like to fuss and fight and say hard things...I think by our posts tell what is usually in our hearts.