Juan Williams

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by notofworks

You make a great point! Hey Twisp, did you know that CNN and Fox News are the Gog & Magog of Revelation?

lol, IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by coadie

Urban dictionary.

Do you know how politically incorrect it is to say another person is politically incorrect?
It brings new meaning to judgementalism and intolerance.

Coadie, you need great intolerance and powerful censorship!

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Good point, and maybe I would. But you're implying that there has been a history of problems with African-Americans doing bad things at ATM's, so maybe YOU need to look in the mirror. Let's face it, there is a very recent history and several thousands grave sites that show a connection between commercial airliners and radical muslims.

Ok, enough touchy-feely, let's revive the fight....It's easy for us all to get sidetracked in our Coadie frustration.

My point to you was, you're condemning stereotyping in one case and defending it in another. I'm still saying you're being hypocritical, regardless of your defense. There is often an element of truth in stereotypes....doesn't make stereotyping right.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Ok, enough touchy-feely, let's revive the fight....It's easy for us all to get sidetracked in our Coadie frustration.

My point to you was, you're condemning stereotyping in one case and defending it in another. I'm still saying you're being hypocritical, regardless of your defense. There is often an element of truth in stereotypes....doesn't make stereotyping right.

When did I defend the statement he made or say it was ok? Can you read or do you just run around the forum accusing people? I merely said he shouldn't be fired!

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by notofworks

When did I defend the statement he made or say it was ok? Can you read or do you just run around the forum accusing people? I merely said he shouldn't be fired!

I think he should have been fired. He made a broad, stereotypical statement about a group of people. Whether he meant it or not, it came off as sounding bigoted.

A rule of thumb I go by: if you have to preface a statement by saying "I'm not a bigot", or, "I'm not a racist", then the ensuing statement probably does not need to be said.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

I think he should have been fired. He made a broad, stereotypical statement about a group of people. Whether he meant it or not, it came off as sounding bigoted.

A rule of thumb I go by: if you have to preface a statement by saying "I'm not a bigot", or, "I'm not a racist", then the ensuing statement probably does not need to be said.

You must be correct. It would be horrific of you to tolerate his intolerance.
The PC police explode with intolerance towards people that are intollerant.

So you say the bigotry and intolerance sent Juan's way is justified.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

You must be correct. It would be horrific of you to tolerate his intolerance.
The PC police explode with intolerance towards people that are intollerant.

So you say the bigotry and intolerance sent Juan's way is justified.

Of course bigotry should not be tolerated. The same way that racism and discrimination should not be tolerated. Has nothing to do with political correctness, has to do with simple decency.

As far as bigotry being sent his way, I know of none being sent his way.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Twisp

I think he should have been fired. He made a broad, stereotypical statement about a group of people. Whether he meant it or not, it came off as sounding bigoted.

A rule of thumb I go by: if you have to preface a statement by saying "I'm not a bigot", or, "I'm not a racist", then the ensuing statement probably does not need to be said.

And I'm usually at the front of the line yelling, "Fire him." But here in the context of the point he was making, I think Williams was demonstrating that there is still a palpable fear out there and when we see a muslim on a plane, thought cross our minds. I don't think he was saying, "Those muslims on planes are dangerous!"

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by notofworks

And I'm usually at the front of the line yelling, "Fire him." But here in the context of the point he was making, I think Williams was demonstrating that there is still a palpable fear out there and when we see a muslim on a plane, thought cross our minds. I don't think he was saying, "Those muslims on planes are dangerous!"

"But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."

He is plainly saying that he gets worried and nervous when he sees Muslims on planes. He has no knowledge of if they are radical or moderate, whether they were born here or abroad, he just sees a Muslim and he gets worried and nervous.

He really couldn't have been much plainer. He is scared of Muslims when he sees them on planes.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Of course bigotry should not be tolerated. The same way that racism and discrimination should not be tolerated. Has nothing to do with political correctness, has to do with simple decency.

As far as bigotry being sent his way, I know of none being sent his way.

Then you don't know much.

"NPR should address the fact that one of its news analysts seems to believe that all airline passengers who are perceived to be Muslim can legitimately be viewed as security threats," said CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad. "Such irresponsible and inflammatory comments would not be tolerated if they targeted any other racial, ethnic or religious minority, and they should not pass without action by NPR."

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/10/20/311...#ixzz1317NMhbe

The Muslims express their intolerance and NPR chose to buckle.

This is actually the central part of the story regarding termination. The left created a distraction. The Muslim bullies get their way by making arguments thst distort what Juan said.