Juan Williams

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

Then you don't know much.




The Muslims express their intolerance and NPR chose to buckle.

This is actually the central part of the story regarding termination. The left created a distraction. The Muslim bullies get their way by making arguments thst distort what Juan said.

Do tell then, who was being bigoted towards him?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

"But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."

He is plainly saying that he gets worried and nervous when he sees Muslims on planes. He has no knowledge of if they are radical or moderate, whether they were born here or abroad, he just sees a Muslim and he gets worried and nervous.

He really couldn't have been much plainer. He is scared of Muslims when he sees them on planes.

You haven't watched the 6 minute tape and are far to dishonest to mention what he said before the above line.

Juan said "politically correctness can lead to some kind of paralysis where you don't address reality"

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Twisp

"But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."

He is plainly saying that he gets worried and nervous when he sees Muslims on planes. He has no knowledge of if they are radical or moderate, whether they were born here or abroad, he just sees a Muslim and he gets worried and nervous.

He really couldn't have been much plainer. He is scared of Muslims when he sees them on planes.

...and like I said, he's skating on the edge. But fired??? I think NPR could issue a statement and say, "The views of Mr. Williams were outside our comfort zone" or whatever, but fired?

But again, in the context of the entire conversation, I think I see what he was saying. I'll admit, this is an unusual position for me because I'm on the frontlines of justice for the oppressed and I'm one of the few people who likes to hear Al Sharpton speak. But I don't see the real damage in Williams' statements.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

You haven't watched the 6 minute tape and are far to dishonest to mention what he said before the above line.

Juan said "politically correctness can lead to some kind of paralysis where you don't address reality"

I have watched the entire clip. The preceding statement further emphasizes his statement about Muslims by saying that political correctness sometimes doesn't let us address reality. The reality, in his case, the reality is that he is worried about Muslims on airplanes.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by notofworks

...and like I said, he's skating on the edge. But fired??? I think NPR could issue a statement and say, "The views of Mr. Williams were outside our comfort zone" or whatever, but fired?

But again, in the context of the entire conversation, I think I see what he was saying. I'll admit, this is an unusual position for me because I'm on the frontlines of justice for the oppressed and I'm one of the few people who likes to hear Al Sharpton speak. But I don't see the real damage in Williams' statements.

I really don't think that NPR, or most companies for that matter, would not fire someone for saying that they were worried when they saw Muslims on an airplane with them.

Mr. Williams could have easily made his point without bringing his personal beliefs or concerns into the conversation.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Ok, I'm "Mr. Sensitive, PC" here on good ole AFF, but I cannot believe Juan Williams was fired for saying this. For sure, he's skirting the edge, but I don't think he went over the edge with this at all. WalksinIslam, are you around? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

Here's what Williams said on the O'Reilly show:

"I'm not a bigot, but when I get on a plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."

I can't believe he was either. In fact, he corrected O'Reilly's "all Muslims are terrorist" on a factual basis. He was being honest on an emotional level.

I'm a little shocked by his firing.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Twisp

I really don't think that NPR, or most companies for that matter, would not fire someone for saying that they were worried when they saw Muslims on an airplane with them.

Mr. Williams could have easily made his point without bringing his personal beliefs or concerns into the conversation.

He wasn't giving an interview or working for an NPR piece. He was sitting on a show as Mr. Williams. He agreed that our sensitivities are his sensitivities, even while qualifying he doesn't believe them to be true. It's ridiculous that he was fired. Hypocrisy.

[BeenThinkin]

With all the bombings, planes being flown into our buildings, shoe bombers, soldier killings, ships being attacked, ("by Muslims") is there anyone on this forum that would place their hand on the Bible and the other hand on the AFF screen on your computer and say that when you get on a plane and there are Muslims, (known by the way that they dress) on board, that you don't have some element of unrest and concern come over you?

BT

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

He wasn't giving an interview or working for an NPR piece. He was sitting on a show as Mr. Williams. He agreed that our sensitivities are his sensitivities, even while qualifying he doesn't believe them to be true. It's ridiculous that he was fired. Hypocrisy.

I know he wasn't giving an interview for NPR. However, they are his employers and have the right to let him go if he does not represent their company the way they think he should.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Twisp

I know he wasn't giving an interview for NPR. However, they are his employers and have the right to let him go if he does not represent their company the way they think he should.

I think taking away the right for a man to have a non-journalistic opinion is a tragedy at its greatest.

They have the right to fire him, but I assure you majority of America will find it absurd, and that can adversely affect the integrity of NPR, which is a broadcasting company I've held in high esteem previously.

Slight overreaction?