Welcome Azzan Thread

[whoami]

Originally Posted by scotty

I logged back on this morning , and I am speechless going through this whole thread. I honestly don't know what to say or where to begin and not sure I can say what I want to say without getting banned.

Repugnant is the first thought that comes to mind. Thankful is the overwhelming feeling that is sweeping over me. Thankful that no one in my church or AFF friends list is anything like you. For eight months last year I left the church and lived a life of sin. During that time many in my church still fellowshipped with me, had me over for dinner, had lunch, met at Starbucks for coffee. Every meeting had no condemnation or judgment despite knowing where I was in my life. They displayed the love and friendship I had always known them for. Many here on this forum still fellowshipped with me on Facebook during that same time. Cindy, Debra, Margie and several others never went a day without posting in fellowship at least 2 or 3 times. They have all watched with support now as I have returned by the grace of God and brought my new wife with me. I can tell you without a doubt, were not for the fellowship of those people I would still be in the world of sin.

It is views such as yours that feeds the "broad brush" criticisms from the liberals here, and for that , I despise you in every way. After reading this thread I am torn between being saddened at how your hurting other conservatives such as myself and pondering if I am truly conservative anymore. I may have to take the moderate position if conservative is defined by you.

I truly hope you find the grace that Christ has intended for us all to have. I shudder at the thought of how many He has sent your way and been rejected by your self righteous theology. I am saddened for you and yet sickened by you at the same time. You are the last thing Apostolic should ever represent and I pray you dont do so much damage that we cant overcome your ignorance.

I agree. I consider myself conservative in every area of life EXCEPT religion/faith/theology because I do NOT want to be associated with the wild condemnation that I see coming from the religious conservative camp. I've seen some here on AFF who consider themselves conservative, but offer the love of Christ and compassion to those who are in sin. When I think of conservative though, I think of attitudes like EB, and that's why I will never define myself as a con.

[Charnock]

Honestly, Renda, who cares if you're "saddened?"

Like that matters?

You seem to care more for freedom of speech than you do for souls.

And that saddens me.

The continued slide of this forum into outright apostasy is like the loss of a close family member.

[Charnock]

Sin brings condemnation.

[Charnock]

Preachers are not called to tolerate sin.

They are called to preach the Word.

- You love your freedoms more than you love your God.

- You love your friends more than you love Truth.

- You love your opinion more than you love God's.

[Charnock]

Romans 1

20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Sin brings condemnation.

Yes.. condemnation from God , not you. And if you don't like the "slide" this forum is taking, then find another. We'll let you know when and if we ever "slide" back to your misunderstanding.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Preachers are not called to tolerate sin.

They are called to preach the Word.

- You love your freedoms more than you love your God.

- You love your friends more than you love Truth.

- You love your opinion more than you love God's.

[Charnock]

Homosexuality is a sin, a perversion, and an abomination.

Homosexuality will keep you from heaven.

You cannot be a Christian and be a homosexual.

Unrepentant homosexuals will go to Hell.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Honestly, Renda, who cares if you're "saddened?"

Like that matters?

You seem to care more for freedom of speech than you do for souls.

And that saddens me.

The continued slide of this forum into outright apostasy is like the loss of a close family member.

And, so I can say, who cares that you are saddened too, but you know what - - I can't because I don't want any saddened.

My word, where is this anger coming from?

Forget AFF -- what I'm saddened at is the outbrust of emotions from people that should be reaching to all that are hurting even if they don't know it.

What I'm saddened about is some are making this more about the slide of this forum than souls that can be reached.

Why the outrage now? Just because a thread gets started on AMF to stir up you guys that's misleading because as stated before - - Chosenbyone was here over three years ago. You posted on that thread - - read some of your posts today when I bumped the thread.

If we had shut down CB1 his eternity could have been hell. You can stomp around all you want, but if one person is changed and saved because AFF or me or someone here has reached out to them, I'm glad for it.

I'm just amazed that as ministers there is such outrage. If you have a gay come to your church, do you throw him out? If you allow him to sit on your pew are you accepting his life style? Good grief - - think about it.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Homosexuality is a sin, a perversion, and an abomination.

Homosexuality will keep you from heaven.

You cannot be a Christian and be a homosexual.

Unrepentant homosexuals will go to Hell.

You dont have a clue do you ? Who are you preaching too ?