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12-04-2010, 04:35 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
Because Timlan is smarter than the average bear....
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12-04-2010, 04:38 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
JD, we don't agree on most of what you've posted.
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12-04-2010, 04:41 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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JD, we don't agree on most of what you've posted.
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Cool. It's probably a good thing.
Where is the disagreement?
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12-04-2010, 06:17 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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That's the same reason they excommunicated Branham, Praxeas ... fraternizing with the enemy ... with a disclaimer published in the Herald ....
The AOG did so, as well
If it were simply because of "actual doctrine" he seems to say enough to placate both sides ... or at least he (Branham) tried.
Point still being, this "intelligence" report DKB is working on is simply the words of Iranian emigrant pastor in Canada who told him that folks are being baptized in Jesus name by Pastor Youcef and his group ....
this was enough to sympathize with his plight and make a public appeal ... and announcing "great revival in this country".
Enough to have hundreds of sycophants post pictures of the "Apostolic" preacher that will be executed on Dec. 3rd ... which was inaccurate as well
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It has been specifically reported that they are not Branhamites. The report is that the Iranian pastor in Montreal had been communicating with them directly via webcam.
Apparently one of them had posted some of Branhams baptism stuff on a website, however when informed of who Branham was immediately removed it.
Could they be Branhamites - it's possible - prior to this thread had the question been raised? I think not.
Whatever he may be he needs prayer for his situation.
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12-04-2010, 06:38 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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Once again I see nothing about what this pastor teaches. I've known a lot of Branham followers and they were all Oneness and baptized In Jesus name and believed in speaking in tongues.
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My thoughts and experience too (though I have only known a few).
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12-04-2010, 06:38 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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It has been specifically reported that they are not Branhamites. The report is that the Iranian pastor in Montreal had been communicating with them directly via webcam.
Apparently one of them had posted some of Branhams baptism stuff on a website, however when informed of who Branham was immediately removed it.
Could they be Branhamites - it's possible - prior to this thread had the question been raised? I think not.
Whatever he may be he needs prayer for his situation.
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Very interesting, Bullwinkle. Thanks for the update. I wonder if Branham's charismatic doctrine on tongues has also possibly influenced or infiltrated this Iranian church.
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12-04-2010, 06:43 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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Well that's all fine, but if that religious person isn't Apostolic, that prayer means nothing! God doesn't hear the prayers of sinners unless they are repenting and are ready to get baptized in Jesus Name.
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Man Jermyn, Are you for real? This does not even sound like you.
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12-04-2010, 06:51 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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Very interesting, Bullwinkle. Thanks for the update. I wonder if Branham's charismatic doctrine on tongues has also possibly influenced or infiltrated this Iranian church.
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DA, why try to show discrepancies on issues you yourself don't believe?
I totally understand the question raised about how some veiw TDJ while at the same time embracing others they know little about...
But it seems you are bent at nailing DKB to the wall for an caring and innocent request for prayer and support for a Pastor with a death sentence for preaching Jesus.
Why is that? Have you and DKB had words recently?
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12-04-2010, 06:52 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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Man Jermyn, Are you for real? This does not even sound like you.
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No, I am reflecting the attitude of some of the Apostolics I have had the distinction of serving the Lord with.
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12-04-2010, 06:56 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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From the "Apostolic" pov: why pray for a man who's spreading a false doctrine?
If we pray for him, do we pray for the Church of God missionary when he/she is persecuted too?
Are they our brothers and sisters too?
Where does it stop?
Pretty sure all Christians will be our brothers and sisters-- where will that leave us and our very exclusive doctrines?
We need to return to the old days of calliing heathens heathens-- all of this Christian concern for other non-Apostolics is not conducive for our standards of salvation, holiness, and separation from the world.
I say from the world because if this guy is not Apostolic, he might as well be in the "world"-- he's not Apostolic, he's not saved, he's not my brother and he is definitely part of this world system of false doctrine and sin!
Maybe if I pray for him, I'll have the chance to show him the truth, then he'll accept it-- repenting of his years of spreading a false gospel, getting rebaptized into the Name of Jesus Christ, and being filled with the REAL Holy Ghost, this time speaking in tongues! God will even let it be confirmed by others and before you know it, he'll be holy just like the rest of us!
Then he can be executed with the confidence that he will go to Heaven!
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OK Jermyn, I am sorry that I can't be sure... but, TIC, right??
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"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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