Who are the Saints in this verse?

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Originally Posted by Chan

This is where you are in error!

This is where you are in error. The very idea that one giving their blood in martydom is effacatious for salvation is gross error.

While those who put their trust in Christ after the "rapture" are not part of the Church, they do have a place in God's kingdom just as the Old Testament saints (who also didn't have the Holy Ghost) do.

Of course I would believe it if you had scripture for it. But, since you do not but rather only an interpretation of a scripture, your interpretation is error. No Holy Ghost Baptism equals NO salvation.

Are you saying that Seth, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the various other Old Testament saints aren't saved? Are you saying they're burning in the lake of fire (since, in your mind, the only people who are saved are those who obeyed Acts 2:38 as you wrongly interpret it and not as it is actually written)?

Why would you assume that I would say such an absurd thing as this. All OT saints were covered by the blood of Jesus, looking forward in obedience to the Word, to the cross of Jesus. Peter said in his first epistle that they also had the Spirit of Christ in them.

No Spirit of Christ...no salvation. Anything else is error. So is the Friends doctrine.