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Old 02-10-2011, 12:30 AM
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Re: Rev 16:9, An Argument Against Universalism

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You, my friend, miss the point, the judgment of Rev 16, is not intended to turn folks to God, it is to remove those whose cup was full! Example: Pharoh, Hitler, Saddam and the like.
Whether it was intended for that purpose or not is beside the point. The point is rather than turn to God they cursed God...Besides why argue the point if you don't believe the Lake of Fire is judgment

However IF that is not what is intended why even bother to mention they did not repent?

Rev 16:9 Thus people were scorched by the terrible heat, yet they blasphemed the name of God, who has ruling authority over these plagues, and they would not repent and give him glory.
Rev 16:10 Then the fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast so that darkness covered his kingdom, and people began to bite their tongues because of their pain.
Rev 16:11 They blasphemed the God of heaven because of their sufferings and because of their sores, but nevertheless they still refused to repent of their deeds.

But how does "Tormented day and night" fit into your idea that they are instantly, painlessly, guilt free, forced to be good and love God against their will?

Rev 20:10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet are too, and they will be tormented there day and night forever and ever.
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