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Originally Posted by Iron_Bladder
Yes but this Son, who's mentioned as the Son is said to have created the universe, so how can the Son be the creator and yet not exist before bethlehem? The text of hebrews 1:2 does say Son.
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No, it doesn't say that the Son created, it says that God created BY this One who is also the Son. AS THE SON, Jesus was begotten, had a beginning, which could not be possible if Jesus AS THE SON is eternal. The notion of an eternal Son is an oxymoron, particularly since the Bible specifically says the Son is begotten.