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Originally Posted by TGBTG
That is what Paul was dealing with. We can't please God in any way other than BEING IN Christ.
The point we're making in essence is we CANNOT keep the OLD COVENANT simultaneously with the NEW COVENANT. It's either one or the other.
What's your take on Col 2:16-17
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I don't agree... while we love our children because they are our children and we will love them even if they are unattractive, not very bright, etc. so will the Father love us. But there are many things that our children can do to make us smile. One of the best is when they do the things we have taught them... Not because they could not choose to do otherwise or because they fear us but because they love and respect us and desire for us to be pleased. It's a totally different thing. I believe that we can indeed make God smile.
There were many festivals and sabbaths. They had nothing to do with the Sabbath that is part of creation's order and was repeated in the timeless commandments, which is the 7th day Sabbath.
Do you then propose that we may now murder, covet, bare false witness, commit adultery? No because these things were carried into the new covenant... as was the Sabbath, kept by Jesus Christ, all the 12 apostles, Paul and every other Christian for over 300 years. It is a simple as understanding baptism by immersion... It just was not done any other way even if not expounded on. Those non-Jews who were converted certainly did not follow every ceremonial detail of sabbath keeping but they did indeed have a day hallowed by God for rest and reflection and that day was the weeks last.
Do you still refer to the 10 commandments or do you now call them the 'Nine Commandments'? And do they have any value to you at all?
What is your take on
John 14:15?