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Old 11-28-2012, 10:28 AM
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Re: A Meaningless Salvation

I think what he is saying, is, It is ridicules to think that a sinners prayer saves you. Or, OSAS, so go do what you want.

Or even, as many Pentecostal’s are taught or come to believe on their own. That when you are ‘born again’ you have it made. Just obey the rules, of what your Pastor teaches you. Many times meaning, outward holiness. Be in church every time the doors are open and pay your tithes. And very little about the inward man and how to overcome, greed, pride, selfishness, off color talk just on the borderline of porn, how to treat your neighbor, and the greatest, what is love.?

The truth is, You must be ‘born again’ before you have the power to live a holy life. (And that does not mean that you will) You may have the wrong teaching of what a holy life consists of. You will only get that from desire and the study of the Bible, as a small group and on your own, seeking for truth.
You can not work your way into being born again. Born again, must come first.

As far as Formula’s. Jesus taught the Apostles, gave Peter the Keys (understanding) and Peter really did give us a Formula. Repent, be baptized in Jesus name and receive the Holy Ghost. And as our example’s, we see that the evidence of the Holy Ghost was speaking in other tongues.

However, that is only the beginning. But to think that is all there is to salvation, would be like, a newborn baby, being left to get it’s own food, learn to walk, talk, or how to function as a responsible human being.

Of course none are left like that. However, they are put into a Denomination which is like an orphanage, where all are treated alike. No Disciplining there. I believe that is exactly why the Apostles, which were left to set up the Church, started out with House Churches.

People say, Oh but a house church could go wrong. True! But that depends on the condition of the heart and spirit of those attending, which is also true of any Denomination. When a people don’t let Jesus be the Head, whether a Denomination or an individual, they have already went back to the pig pen.

If six people or a whole Denomination are looking for ways to be as close to the worldly spirit, as they can be without getting caught (which many don’t understand is the spirit of the Devil) they will compromise, rationalize and finally come up with a solution, to ease their conscience. Or they will backslide.

A Denomination can’t function very long, unless they Legalize their man-made laws and rules. And when people get sick of that, it usually turns into, “anything goes.” I’ve seen it happen. And am seeing it happen more and more.

And yes, the churches are turning into social clubs and meaningless Religion. There is no such thing as meaningless salvation, unless a person is talking about people that were truly born again, and then turning to sin.
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