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Old 11-10-2013, 10:02 PM
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Re: Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC

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Many Israelites lamented the fact that they weren't in Egypt anymore when freedom proved to be tougher than originally though.

There is a specific class of people who was "set free" from bondage here in America, only to cling to that bondage under their new Masters.

.....And then yes, there are those who NEED to be told what to do in church. The NEED for something to "amen!" too that they know THEY are doing what they have been told but the poor backslidden souls sitting behind them are not.
I don't know that I have ever said "ditto" to a Randy Wayne post but I can this one.

My anecdotal analysis after being in or around old time Pentecost the last 50 years or so is that most old time Pentecostal churches are primarily made up of;

1. Those born into the church and those who marry them.
2. People who come from lives / situation with little or no structure (abandoned by parents, substance abuse issues in the family, etc)

For those who come from secular lives with little or no structure the laundry list of legalism is a refuge for them providing a structure they have not had in their lives and is also a crtuch / measuring stick by which they can measure their position with God.

I also think these folks are more apt to follow a preacher who is preaching extra biblical doctrines and practices as they desperately want someone to believe in and put all of their faith in (a human being in addition to Jesus).
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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