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Old 02-17-2014, 01:21 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

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Originally Posted by Pliny View Post
Here is the absurdity of this post:

You said:
"the One speaking to the apostle John, did NOT say, I have somewhat against you because a woman is teaching."

Then in the very next sentence you said:
" He said, she is teaching my servants to sin."

Like I said:
"The ONLY scripture where a woman was teaching and what do we have?
False doctrine. That is precisely the point and the same point made by Paul:
(1Ti 2:11 KJV) Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
(1Ti 2:12 KJV) But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
(1Ti 2:13 KJV) For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
(1Ti 2:14 KJV) And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."

The only misuse is yours. You clearly cannot understand the statement "I suffer NOT a woman to teach nor usurp authority over the man". How absurd to say that this is only at home where the wife, a word Paul could have used and didn't, then to allow that role reversal in a church setting. You would be completely out of order to take control at home or to get up and try to teach men in a church setting - feeding the flock of God. That role is the sole domain of the man. A bishop must be the husband of one wife.

This post is yet another example of why women should not be allowed to teach men...

Edited to add:
This may be shocking to you but here it is:
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In silence (ἐν ἡσυχίᾳ)
See on peaceable, 1Ti_2:2. Rev. renders quietness; but the admonition concerns the behavior of women in religious assemblies. Comp. 1Co_14:34. The word is used in the sense of silence, Act_22:2 : with the broader meaning quietness in 2Th_3:12.


You see, the misuse of scripture is yours when you try to twist it to mean something that it doesn't.
Again Kittle's definition, Kittle was a Greek scholar BTW.
"Adam as the first man is mentioned in 1 Tim.2:13-14 in connection with the order of the community set out in 1 Tim. 2:1 - 3:16. In the section which deals with the right conduct of the woman in the service of God (2:9-15) the demand that she should be subordinate to man (2:12) is given as a basis in early biblical history. This establishes the supremacy of man at creation by the fact a. that he was created first (2:13), and b. that Eve was first deceived (2:14)... The order of God at creation is still His will for the community (cf Mk. 10:6).

Exactly! Even worse, the definite article translated "the" does not appear in I Timothy 2:12. Here's the actual Greek text: http://biblehub.com/text/1_timothy/2-12.htm


Here is the literal translation:


New International Version
I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

New Living Translation
I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly.

English Standard Version
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

New American Standard Bible
But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
I do not allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; instead, she is to be silent.

NET Bible
But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man. She must remain quiet.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For I do not allow a woman to teach, neither to usurp over a man, but she should be quiet;

GOD'S WORD® Translation
I don't allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. Instead, she should be quiet.

Jubilee Bible 2000
For I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over a mature man, but to be at rest.

American Standard Version
But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to be in quietness.

Darby Bible Translation
but I do not suffer a woman to teach nor to exercise authority over man, but to be in quietness;

English Revised Version
But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to be in quietness.


Weymouth New Testament
I do not permit a woman to teach, nor have authority over a man, but she must remain silent.

World English Bible
But I don't permit a woman to teach, nor to exercise authority over a man, but to be in quietness.



She (& the rest of them) are willfully ignorant of the Scriptures & have no idea what they're talking about - & love to have it so ! Then, they attempt to correct us for "misusing Scripture" ! Knee-slapping hilarity!


I Tim. 2.11-3.15 is NOT talking about the imaginary "marriage relationship" & Paul explicitly said he was writing to Timothy to set the church affairs in order. Women preachers-teachers in the church are out of order - & so is the pastor who allows it .
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