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Old 09-21-2014, 12:16 AM
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Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?

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Bishop, do you think that Peter and Paul had the attitude, regarding false teachers, that they should just "agree to disagree"?
There needs to be a distinction between someone who teaches a doctrine inaccurately and someone who is a false prophet. Simply teaching tithing is a matter of ignorance (or at worst greed). I don't think that alone makes anyone a false prophet.

Bishop isn't the enemy. Steve Epley isn't the enemy. They are brothers in Christ, thus while disagreement may be sharp, and the need may even present itself to "withstand them to their face" )as much as that is possible on the internet)--and I've called SE on some things lately, they should be treated as brothers. My siblings and I didn't always get along, but in the end we are all still family. The same with those who trust in Christ as their Savior. We may not always get along, but we are family (I'm speaking of those truly regenerate believers, not the masses of false converts).

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I have news for you....the information age is here. You guys cant keep us in fear of you and in a "dark age" mentality with "pope-ish" threats anymore.(the Lord WILL NOT hear your prayers against his church regarding any false doctrine)
Sean, you're making wish I wasn't on the same side of this issue you are. Tone it down.
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The next generation will end this doctrine and you guys will go down in the "hall of shame" when everyone exposes this false concept to each other. The saints will look back and say these forefathers "duped" the world and the church, and were still stuck in the "reformation".
I doubt the next generation will end this doctrine. Perhaps if the Lord tarried the church as a whole will see this as something to be dropped. But then again, its only because so many people on AFF view "the church" as the little movement that is oneness pentecostalism so they don't realize that actually the majority of Christians don't even believe in tithing, and there are many, many strong Bible teachers and commentators who don't believe in tithing. If we accept that the church is not the oneness pentecostal church, and realize that tithing is really only strong amongst pentecostal/charismatic groups, some Baptists (epsecially Southern Baptists) and Mormons, everyone else rejects the view that tithing is a requirement of NC believers.

But more to your point, the Reformers all dropped this doctrine. Reformed and Bible Churches don't teach tithing. Neither do Churches of Christ or Methodists or many others.

The problem is oneness Pentecostalism is 500 years behind the Reformers, they still haven't grasped justification by faith, much less dropped tithing.
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