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Old 02-01-2015, 01:33 AM
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Re: Original Sin

It is specifically said these things proceed from the heart, not from "the nature".

When a person is born again they are given a new heart, are they not? And if that is the "fallen nature" then the fallen nature is removed at conversion as the believer now has a new heart.

I read an old holiness sermon one time, by a Wesleyan no less, titled "Much that is called sanctification today is really justification".

There is no verse that says mankind are born with a SIN NATURE, or that anyone is GUILTY of Adam's sin. The bible says DEATH passed upon all men because all have sinned. It also says by Adam came death (not a sin nature).

Sin is universal, but not because men are UNABLE to obey God, but because they are UNWILLING. That is why sin is a CRIME rather than an unfortunate handicap. That is why sinners are REBELS and not just poor misfortunate ones, unable to do or be anything BUT sin.

That is why sinners are GUILTY, and without excuse.

What greater excuse could a sinner have than to say "I literally was forced to sin by the sin nature"? But sinners are without excuse.

Guilt means doing what you ought not to have done, or not doing what you ought to have done. But nobody can be obligated to do what they positively CANNOT BY NATURAL INHERENT INABILITY do, anymore than that they should be OBLIGATED to sprout wings and fly through the air.

Tell your 6 year old son "you OUGHT to be able to quote all of Shakespeare by heart" and when he fails to do it then GET ANGRY WITH HIM and PUNISH HIM, nay DISINHERIT HIM and you will be just as righteous as the god promoted by the doctrine of "original inherited sin".
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