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Originally Posted by shazeep
Jesus told Nicodemus he must be born again!
hey, i'm telling you you must be born again; how's that workin out for ya?
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I was born again!
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Jesus didn't tell the thief on the cross that he had to be born again, but said "today you will be with Me in paradise."
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And that was days before he even resurrected, and beyond that, another 40 days before He told the disciples to BEGIN preaching a message they never preached before in Jerusalem.... namely, repentance, remission of sins in His name, and reception of the promise of the Father, which is fulfilled in
Acts 2:38.
Surely you knew that!
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Jesus leads, not us. We FOLLOW His Spirit. His Spirit leads us to tell the lost about salvation, and we follow him by obeying. And like Paul, we tell anyone who thinks to follow us, to only do so as long as we follow Christ.
ok, well if your "following Christ" leads you to "all Catholics are lost,"
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This is where you totally misread my intentions and it put you on a hate binge for me ever since. Again, the bible says we must trust on the work of the cross or be lost, and catholics don't. But I already said that and you twisted it as though I go around emphasizing "all ___ are lost. "
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and you reject what i am saying, fine;
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You simply twist what I say, intend and mean. And you simply conflict with the bible and excuse it away saying God put that in there to deceive dishonest people.
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you might defend your position to your brethren here, who do not believe that anyone here even made such statements, while we both know that you and others have, and in fact this is a widely held position. Where is the disconnect?
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The disconnect is in what I meant by it and what I explained here about that. You've disregarded so many explanations I made, that it's moot now.
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