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Re: Apostoic worship??
Let us recall a few things first. Joe Bandy started this thread questioning some of the practices that occur in UPC type Churches. Since I agreed with at least part of what he was saying I followed it for a while.
What I noticed was at least in the beginning of your rebuttal to him you were strongly defending against what he was putting forth. You hammered him about bowing or being prostrate as if that was ALL he thought was acceptable. It seemed like several of you were very hard on him.
So what I gathered was that the practices among UPC Churches were being praised very much and Joes questions were pretty much mocked.
As when Joes question about people speaking out loud in the Church in tongues or Preachers hollering tongues into the mic was given again it was rebuked even tho he had an excellent point.
Now I cant remember who all said what so this may have not been you. Frankly I dont feel like reading this entire thread again to pinpoint who said what in every case.
To me this is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of people just doing whatever they want in their way of worship.
Altho Paul and therefore Christ reproves such practice clearly will Pentecostals and Charismatics repent and come in line with the truth?
So at point in time I enter the thread which was started by a Brother who seemed to be looking for a more restrained yet spiritual form of worship....as defined by the thread starter which I understood perfectly.
He was referring to when saints sing and praise and what is called WORSHIP THE LORD IN PRACTICALLY EVERY APOSTOLIC CHURCH IN THE WORLD
So somewhere at that point I enter with a video stating if there had been music like that when my folks made me go to Church as a child...I would have begged them to take me!
So from the time I entered the thread what I have met with is I dont have a clue what worship is. We are told that basically worship is our entire life. Now to be serving God must entail our entire lives but I believe worship is certain acts of praise and adoration.
Joe gave a good definition of OT worship in bowing down to the Lord and falling before him. Instead of people agreeing with the definition of the word and perhaps encouraging him in what he was seeing people here attacked him mercilessly as if he was somehow wrong.
If in the OLD Testament bowing toward God is called worship SPECIFICALLY whats wrong with that? Does it mean one could not REJOICE IN GOD in the OTHER WAYS scripture mentions we should do? So the thread became all about the word "worship". What is it? You had no problem understanding initially when you were defending UPC type "wildness" as you called it once.
But when I brought the IHOP worship into the thread you changed. Then "worship" was not praising and adoring the Lord but it became ones entire life. I suppose that way fault could be found with IHOP and I brought out things among Apostolics that if you and I judged them we would call heresy.
So then the conversation becomes so complicated neither one of us really wanted to stay in it. So in my next post I will try to point out a few things where I think you wrote prove at least one point I am trying to make.
Last edited by Michael The Disciple; 01-17-2018 at 12:03 AM.
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