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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
You don't do that. There is a thread on this forum concerning this subject and you pasted it with pictures. You also offered two articles which don't only deal with scripture but bring up history. So, history is good as long as it is to your advantage? OK, I'll keep that in mind for this, and whatever else you post from here on out. Good job Chris. Your breath must smell of foot.
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Yes, I've quoted history. I'm not against it. I'm just illustrating that it isn't holy writ and can be rather biased.
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Bible doesn't jot down every article of clothing, if it did you would win this argument. Yet, you go round and round looking for historical drawings on the internet.
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Both sides of the discussion have done this.
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That's because you don't know what the verse is actually saying. It uses words that are male specific and female specific.
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Obfuscation. Yes, it speaks specifically of male and female. But it doesn't specify the article. It makes a general statement. This is why interpretations have ranged from it being about women wearing body armor, to women wearing a weapon, to women wearing pants.
God is clearly condemning an abominable practice. A perversion. Not giving edicts on form and fashion. Besides, every honest soul knows that the outer garments of both men and women were very similar in design. Women's were longer, more colorful, and were often decorated with design. If such subtleties set them apart... certainly the sequins, embroidered heart patterns, and cut of women's pants would set them apart from men's pants. So yes, if those are the pants you enjoy wearing, please note, they pertain to a woman.
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Chris it isn't cannabis, that was the generic Hebrew word for cane, any kind.
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There's far more to it than that. Look it up. There are even ancient trade manifests that list it, and in many manuscripts, drawings. There's a documentary that is nearly 2 hours long on the history of this and many other resources.
But here's one I've posted before:
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So, when you are deceiving the people of God that reefer is cool with God, you have no scripture. Hey, don't feel so bad, dopers also believe the mushroom was manna from heaven.
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Total mischaracterization again. I.E. … a lie. I never said that people should think that "reefer is cool with God". I've said that medicinally it can be of value. And God not only calls all that He created good, He gave us dominion over it, even stating every herb of the ground shall be for meat, meaning there is no prohibition on consumption. Now, general principles do apply. Consuming fermented grape juice to excess is drunkenness. I'd say the same for any other substance, including cough syrups that are often abused.
Just stop the lies already.
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Holy oil? Chris, it wasn't reefer.
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I don't know if you looked into this or not. There is debate on the ingredients. What was found was that if the keneh-bosem listed was cannabis, the oil actually would not only bring a subtle sense of peace, but it even helps to heal lesions on the skin, even reversing the dermatological effects of diabetes. But interestingly enough, if the recipe is made from the "traditional" idea of what was in it, it's actually riddled with toxins and doesn't provide any significant medical value aside from moisturization and some vitamin provision for the skin.
So, let the individual be the judge.
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China? Bro, the Chinese were pagans they also did all sorts of drugs mixed with their religion
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The Chinese may have been pagan. But they were lightyears ahead of the Western cultures in the way of medicines and treating numerous ailments. Now, as with all things human, this doesn't mean that every single treatment was beneficial. So, don't bother looking up some crazy treatment that we all know is an ancient misguided notion. But what was written about cannabis and how it was used as a pain killer is pretty solid. And, I don't think they "smoked" it. It was more an ingredient for ointments and balms.
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Chris, your so called research is all around you of those who smoked all their lives. Who gave it up because even though they smoked weed they were even more tortured. Because the THC amplified their intrusive thoughts!!!!
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I know tortured souls who abused food too. That doesn't mean a hamburger is sin. They were abusers, tokers, pot-heads, stoners, and hippies. They most likely abused alcohol and women too. To compare them to a Parkinson's patient who used to be a decorated police officer, who takes medical cannabis to alleviate the symptoms of his conditions is a brazen mischaracterization. Another "lie".
Do you guys ever tell the truth?