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Originally Posted by Aquila
Bingo.
ALL human government is fallible, because ALL human beings are fallible.
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But an elder who gets divorced is ineligible to be an elder? Maybe you can explain why Paul held fallible men to such a high standard? This is where the we have a divide in Churchanity. One group is to be good, and the ones in the pews have no such standard. Priests and nuns had a standard of attire of separation. Yet, the rank and file were not to be held to the same standard obviously making a division. Yet, Jesus, as well as Paul required people to hold a high standard. Woman caught in adultery is admonished to never sin again? Didn't Jesus know that this woman (prior to the Holy Ghost outpouring) was fallible? Anyway, my dear old dad, the atheist would roar with laughter. He use to say that Christians are the only group who are constantly apologizing for what is found in their holy book. Later I would find that ecclesiastically lazy people would refute the Bible by contradicting the Bible. Mainly because they were jacked up. So religiously careless that they fell short. Therefore justified it by saying that the Bible never expected them to live an exceptionally clean life. But then the astute atheist sticks
1 John 3:8 in their face, and then asks, what about this? Fallible Devil Worshippers?