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Originally Posted by n david
Not sure you're reading the same posts as I am, because I haven't read any posts in this thread as described above. Are you addressing a specific post or just typing thoughts based on interactions with others not in this thread?
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Some of this is from interactions with Benincasa...discussions we have had...some some sarcasm just emerging due to stress and personal stuff Im dealing with and some was actually a legit point about how the people come to Jesus using "we"..."Didnt WE do this..." but my personal observational experience has been that there are some that DO and some that dont and the ones that dont seem to be fine with riding the coattails of the ones that do.
It just made me wonder because I used to put so much stock in what group I belonged to...I could just really do nothing as long as I went through the motions and said all the right words but I never really obeyed God...it was more about obeying the cheerleader of the moment.
It was all about looking and sounding the part.
In a way, being in the group hidden...a part of me kinda took credit for people that WERE obeying God and being obedient....they belong to the same group I belong to...the "church" is spoken of as a sort of collective...when there is scandal we all feel shame and when good things happen we all rejoiced. We were a part even if only just being a part in name and organizational belonging only.
So with those thoughts in mind I reapproached that scripture Ive heard preached in only one context for so many years.
I was just thinking "out loud" really...not trying to start anything...I literally got the thought as I was making the post and just went with it because some thoughts I have are fleeting and I need to get them out to remember them.
The scripture says that individuals will come to Jesus in judgement and say,"Didnt WE do this in thy name?"
Maybe I need to just do some looking into the tenses used or something I dunno but at first glance it seems that they SHOULD be saying,"Lord, remember those people I prayed for and they got healed and those demons I cast out?"
But at the risk of beating a dead horse....they use "we" which makes me think that maybe Christ is addressing those that hide in the group, not active but take credit...kinda like,"Hey! I wore the jersy! I attended all the games! I cheered!" But they werent actually on the field playing...and now they show up wanting their trophy and Coach is kicking em out of the stadium.
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