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Old 12-05-2020, 08:06 PM
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Re: The Manchild Ministry 45 Minutes

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The only premise I start with is the time statements of Revelation, of " the time is at hand," shortly come to past," which so many whistle past those verses so as not to notice them.

Many today whistle right by the very answer to the time statements.
2 Peter 3

3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

The Holy Spirit tempers objections to why his coming doesnt fit in our schedule. From his view point 3000 years could pass and it would only be 3 DAYS TO HIM. So his ways are not our ways and he will be justified in all his sayings.

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I didn't say the enemy isn't trying to kill the gospel of Jesus today, but you seem to be trying to force it's intended meaning to those the book was addressed to, and make it be for you today?
I take the words of Jesus as spirit and life. Who gets to pick and choose what part of Jesus words are for them as contrast to us? Is ANY of the Bible for us today? After all NONE OF IT was addressed to anyone alive today.



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No. The setting in Revelation 12 was directed to the Christians and the gospel of Jesus during that time, but God protected her in the wilderness when she left Jerusalem during the siege by the gentiles.
But what about the time frame of THIS context?

Rev 12:5-6

5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

The manchild is caught up to the throne! So you contend the gospel was caught up to the throne? Yet in the FOLLOWING VERSE the vision shows the woman (Church) fleeing to the wilderness.

You have Jesus ascending and then some 40 years later the Church fleeing. The context implies this happens as soon as the child is caught up to Heaven.
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