
07-16-2007, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NLYP
Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is what??? come on say it with me.....LIBERTY!!!
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Okay, dude, kindly show me where I ever was against LIBERTY!!! I simply don't believe that the Holy Ghost gives me LICENSE to do as I please. True liberty gives me the freedom to live separate from the sinfulness of this world, and have a relationship with Jesus.
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See thats what burns me up about you guys...you make a bunch or rules...manuals, creeds, dogmas and dare label them "holiness".
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Again, I would like for you to show me where I have created, or even referred to, any particular 'rule book' or 'manual'. I reference God's Word, and for some reason, that seems to trouble you.
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Then those of us that refuse to be subjected to your control of people...you call it me me and flesh and carnailty
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MY control of people? Puleeze! I am happy to have control of my dog, thank you, and have no desire to 'control' anybody else. Not my job. I call your apparent lauding of righteousness fellowshipping with unrighteousness as something of God, when the scripture is plain that these things ought not so to be, for what it is: wrong. When THAT is what you call liberty, THAT is what I (through Biblical study) call carnal license.
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I call it my God given right to live my life for the kingdom of God without you trying to be my conscience, convictions and Lord!
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Whoa, now, dude, before you suffer an apoplectic stroke! Wherever do you get the notion that I would even wish to be your conscience? I can almost hear the tantrum of a gradeschooler: "You're not the boss of me!!!!"
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I call it my God given right to live in a way that pleases my Jesus without your stupid rules.
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Again, please show me the 'rules' that I am supposedly trying to 'force' upon you.
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I wonder...who is really the one in bondage here???
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I would venture to say it is you, friend, because you are seemingly so quick to throw a virtual hissy fit if you think somebody might be telling you something you are doing is wrong.
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My Pastor said it best today in church.....Standards are NOT Holiness!!!
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Your pastor is absolutely correct. BTW, I would also like for you to show me where I have ever equated 'standards' with holiness?
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And he added...
For those of you that want to be a Pharisee.....grade on a curve!
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And your point is?
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And yes he is UPCI and a presbyter!
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And again I ask, your point is?
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