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Old 05-22-2008, 09:25 AM
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Re: True Worshippers

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple View Post
How about what I quoted from the article? What I commented is directed at that.



Jesus himself TAUGHT his disciples how to worship him. So I certainly believe that one must be correct in understanding his doctrine.

Jesus made it clear that our own imaginations are not the same as his commands and revelations.

8: This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9: But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Matt. 15:8-9

His doctrine reveals his heart about matters. So to be in tune with his heart we must be changed and conformed to it. Apart from his own word/doctrine we will be apart from him to whatever degree we are missing it.

True doctrine of course must be obeyed from the heart. When it is one will be like Jesus. If false doctrine is obeyed from the heart Jesus says it is VAIN WORSHIP.

He does encourage his people that the Spirit will guide us into all truth. So yes there is room for us to grow in understanding. He does love his Children who are not yet walking in the purity of his word. But he does not leave them to walk in the imagination of their heart.

I think if you read the passage in context you will find that he promised when the Holy Spirit came He would guide THEM into all truth. There may be a sense in which the HS guides us into truth but not in the same way as the disciples. If you back up you will find that Jesus first said to them,

These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 14:25-26

and then


I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. John 16:12-13


The reason for guiding them into all truth was because they could not bear it now. This truth that he was talking about was His death, leaving them, coming to them in the form of the HS.

To borrow from someone else...."Context, context, context, students."
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