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Old 07-13-2008, 01:12 AM
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Re: AFF apostolic or not?

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Pastor Salaz, You do have some good info. in your posts. Since you just stumbled upon this forum let me tell you exactly what is going on here. This forum is a mixture of a lot of different things. There are many people here who once held to certain standards but have dropped them like a hot potato. These are men and women who are walking away from the light. They are not walking towards the light. If you mention a particular standard or conviction that you hold, they begin to mock and make fun of those types of things. You mentioned the standards of new converts. There is a difference between new converts that are daily learning what truth and holiness is all about, and those that are here on this forum that have no respect whatsoever for standards or convictions. If you have new converts, I would recommend they get nowhere near this forum. Most here don't believe that God uses the five fold ministry in the church today. They think that if it is not black and white in the Bible that you should just keep your standard to yourself. They don't believe in scriptural principles. If you mention a particular standard you are automatically considered judgmental. Have you noticed that any conservative position gets butchered and cut into pieces? Then they say that we are the ones that take sledge hammers to little knats. There are preachers here on this forum that used to preach holiness. Now they think you are crazy for still holding to the things THEY USED TO PREACH THEMSELVES. DIDN'T THEY USE SCRIPTURE WHEN THEY PREACHED IT MANY YEARS AGO? Now they want the conservatives to find their own forum because we make them uncomfortable. They are really under conviction but they mask it with insults. Trust me, when conservatives leave this forum it will go back to threads like ...your favorite tv show.... or something of that nature. Very carnal. I don't know you pastor Salaz but if you have any convictions whatsoever they will dice you up into little pieces. They will find a loop hole somewhere. One genius asked me if it was wrong for a woman to have a skirt as long as a mans pants. See the mentality? This was asked because I mentioned a pair of shorts pertaining to a woman because of the shorter length. Did not think they would stoop that low. Their arguments are like swiss cheese, FULL OF HOLES but if you have a supposed hairline crack they will try to plunge through it like there is a pot of gold on the other side. If you have a strong standard they don't want to hear it, but they will get on here and promote praise dancing, strobe lights in apostolic services, and don't you dare say anything about it. If you want friends, this is probably a pretty good place. If you want apostolic friends you need to put about 75% of these guys on ignore.

Many ask why conservatives even bother to come around here.

My first reaction to this forum was shock. I could not believe the things that people did and believed in and still called themselves apostolic, so my first reaction was to earnestly contend for the faith. Maybe I won't help these that are here but maybe there is a visitor (non poster) that sees this side of the position and wants to sincerely change.

My concern for many here is that the Lord himself has sent them a strong delusion that they would believe a lie and be dammed. It is one thing to be deceived by the devil, it is another to be deceived by God himself. If that is the case no amount of posting is going to help any here. I hope and pray that is not the case.

Don't fall into their trap and become like them.
Jesus is the light. YOUR version of outward Holiness is not.

You never know though, maybe your phariseeism is a strong delusion on your part.
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