Ray Boltz????

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Will you achieve sinlessness before death?



I think many do try to justify their behavior by suggesting that God made them that way. I think that’s where we, as the Church, need to educate them. Explain to them that perhaps they were “born” this way (i.e. born a sinner with this fleshly disposition). Help them see this as something rooted in their sin nature. Then explain to them that this is why they need the Lord so desperately. Then we move on to the regeneration of the spirit through the new birth, the regeneration of the mind through the preached Word, and finally the petition for God’s total healing in body. See, what we do is we correct the spirit through bringing them into the new birth. We then renew their minds through preaching….but we leave the body out. We don’t explain to them that this is in their flesh and that they will need a miraculous healing also. So when they continue to struggle in their flesh they begin to doubt that their spirit has been regenerated and they begin to doubt that their mind is being renewed by the Word. Suddenly they feel that God has either abandoned them or has accepted them as normal. We need to bring them into the third dimension of physical healing and renewal also. And be open with them…until God heals their bodies, they will struggle with this in their flesh. But give them all the assurance we can that they are saved and that God loves them. And if and when they fall…we pick them up and brush them off like we do anyone else who falls into sin.

Personally…I think the sin of homosexuality is of far less consequence than religious pride, hate, and arrogance.

None of us are sinless. If a homosexual is crying out to God for salvation and has simply said, “Lord, I can’t fight it anymore. Without a miracle, this is what I am.” They’re being more real with God than the Pharisaical legalist who denies their own sinfulness in their condemnation of others.

Our battle has always been between flesh and spirit. Why do we relegate this to "willpower" and brow beat those who are bound by an infirmity of the flesh?

Wow you got all that out of my post? So you are in effect calling me a sinner, a pharisee, a legalist, a judge. And so the homosexual that doesn't see the need for forgiveness or deliverance is saved but I am not, or my sin is greater than his? I did not condemn any man but I did condemn the sin.