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Originally Posted by LUKE2447
I would agree with much of this. Though your point of due to modesty of there day negates in part my point Paul uses clear teaching this is not restricted to culture but is a aspect of divine order. It was propriety but in relation to divine order of a covering that was needed do to divine order not due to custom demand.
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Let’s look at the text putting each verse in context:
I Corinthians 11:1-16
{11:1} Be ye followers of me, even as I also [am] of
Christ.
{11:2} Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me
in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered [them]
to you. {11:3} But I would have you know, that the head of
every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the
man; and the head of Christ [is] God.
Here Paul lays down divine order, next he begins to address an issue…
{11:4} Every man
praying or prophesying, having [his] head covered,
dishonoureth his head.
If a man prays with head covered, as do the Jews, he dishonors Christ by living as though under the Law.
{11:5} But every woman that
prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered
dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were
shaven.
Wow. Here it is, if a woman goes without a covering it’s as though she were shaven. In other words it’s immodest and unsightly.
{11:6} For if the woman be not covered, let her also
be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or
shaven, let her be covered.
If a woman will not wear her covering, let her be shorn. Why? Because she’s acting like an immodest harlot. But since it’s a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her simply obey and be covered.
{11:7} For a man indeed ought
not to cover [his] head, forasmuch as he is the image and
glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
A man ought not cover his head because he is the image and glory of God. He’s been set free from the Law and symbolically represents Christ, the groom of the bride. The woman is the glory of the man, as the church is the glory of Christ.
{11:8}
For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the
man. {11:9} Neither was the man created for the woman;
but the woman for the man.
Women may not like this standard, but they are called to be in subjection because they were made for their husbands.
{11:10} For this cause ought
the woman to have power on [her] head because of the
angels.
The woman is to have authority and reverence given to her head (her husband) instead of this immodesty failure to cover, because failure to cover is rebellion and she will reap judgment for her rebellion as did the angels.
{11:11} Nevertheless neither is the man without the
woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
{11:12} For as the woman [is] of the man, even so [is] the
man also by the woman; but all things of god.
In light of this however, each should give mutual respect. Women are not door mats to be bossed around because even man owes his life to woman.
{11:13}
Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto
God uncovered?
Paul asks them about their cultural sensitivity. Is it proper that a woman be uncovered? The answer would be an obvious “no” in first century context.
{11:14} Doth not even nature itself teach
you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
{11:15} But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her:
for [her] hair is given her for a covering.
Paul now appeals to nature itself, for even nature teaches us that a woman should be covered, her hair serving as this example.
{11:16} But if any
man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom,
neither the churches of God.
If any man be contentious against the principles of modesty that Paul is laying down, the church has no such custom.
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Originally Posted by LUKE2447
So Aquila are you saying women don't need a covering at all now? That clearly goes against the meaning of the text.
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The eternal principle is modesty. Paul was addressing the necessity of head coverings to maintain modesty. Today we don’t wear head coverings, but this serves as an example showing us how to address other modesty issues in all cultures. If attending church in Pakistan a woman should most likely wear a head covering. In America, it’s not issue. But we might ask, should a woman wear panty hose? Some don’t care. But in today’s culture it’s alluring and if she is uncomely or improper in worship, she dishonors her head, her husband. As you can see, the same principle is in play though head coverings aren’t required anymore.
That’s my understanding bro. God bless ya.
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