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Old 02-15-2010, 07:05 AM
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Re: Christianity without the Cross: A review...

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Seriously this well these two agreed to come togethor and one forced the other out whine.... sheeesh I am amazed how anyone could believe the two drastic beliefs could be a group in the first place. Sure fellowship "might" be possible but nothing on a technical basis when it came to doctrine.

Also I could careless what xyz believed because he was part of the original org or whatver. What does that have to do with truth. I don't base truth on someone else nor a org. The mindset I see around here by many makes me just sit back and shake my head over the 100's of threads claiming some type of justification on EITHER side. If you are basing your doctrine on mom, dad, org, history of good people and what they believed. Well your in trouble as they have become the master and the source and not the Word of God or the Spirit leading you.
The two groups came together and that is pretty amazing. But just because it is amazing doesn't mean it didn't happen. Fellowship would have been more than possible than on a technical basis also. In fact the only thing that would need to be different would be that the exact moment of salvation would not be mentioned at major conferences or by visiting preachers. In fact that sounds very doable to me. So them coming together and thinking the merger would succeed doesn't sound really that amazing after all.

I find it strange that 3-steppers who make claims about history, that there have always been people who believe like them, would say history just doesn't matter. In fact it seems that the only history that doesn't matter is the history that doesn't go along with their beliefs. So I say at least be consistent. If you are going to say the history doesn't matter then don't cite history to try and prove there was some kind of unbroken chain of Apostolic believers from 1st century to now. But you can't really drop that claim can you? Otherwise you must contend with the assertion that your belief means that not one person was saved in the last 1700+ years. So it seems history is important and no amount of saying it doesn't matter can change that because the moment you make that claim, I'm just going to ask you about the salvation of all those people who lived before the 1900s.

It's also strange to hear a 3-stepper talk about not basing doctrine on anybody or any organization. Aren't yall the ones who constantly remind the rest of us about the old paths? Aren't yall the ones telling us that we should base many of our doctrines and beliefs on our pastor?

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