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Old 08-16-2010, 02:02 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...

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"Not with gold jewelry, pearls, or costly apparel." [NLT]. Sorry friend, denial is not evidence. I have all "the merit" in the world...it's called the Bible. You oughta' check it out sometime......
Well there you have it. Your just wasting my time. I can only understand your great wisdom when I'm spiritual like you. And all this time I thought the Emperor was really naked! DOH!

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Our very point was that there is no textual proof to suggest Lucifer's jewels were a violation against God. It is said in a rather complimentarian way, including the description of musical abilities and glory. God creating man who LATER sinned is completely irrevelant. You're trying to stretch an Oprah-sized point onto a Leonardo DiCaprio body

Sorry Charlie, there certainly is textual proof that Lucifer's ornaments played a part in his fall...why else did the Holy Spirit take the time to enumerate them in describing his fall. Musical abilities are not condemned else where in the Bible as is Jewelry on God's people. Try again Jeffrey.....
[B]You were in Eden,
the garden of God;
every precious stone adorned you:
ruby, topaz and emerald,
chrysolite, onyx and jasper,
sapphire, turquoise and beryl. [c]
Your settings and mountings [d] were made of gold;
on the day you were created they were prepared.


14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.

15 You were blameless in your ways
from the day you were created
till wickedness was found in you.

16 Through your widespread trade
you were filled with violence,
and you sinned.
So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God,
and I expelled you, O guardian cherub,
from among the fiery stones.

17 Your heart became proud
on account of your beauty,
and you corrupted your wisdom
because of your splendor.
So I threw you to the earth;
I made a spectacle of you before kings.


There is nowhere in this passage even a HINT or SUGGESTION that jewelry was "part of Lucifer's fall." Nor was this a description of his fall (portions do in later vv 17-19, which describes pride). Or perhaps your thinking of the description in Isaiah 14:12-15, which again describes his sin, but nothing in there about jewelry.

Ezekiel 28 was one of MANY scriptures were jewelry is spoken of positively.
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