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Originally Posted by notofworks
Nope, certainly no prosperity gospel. And...no "Power of positive thinking", either. It's "Possibility Thinking."
Things have been rough since two things....since Schluer's son was ousted and since the economy went in the tank. Schuler's daughter is now the senior pastor and honestly, the program is tough to watch now. It's obvious she has some charismatic leanings and it just doesn't jive with the culture of the glass cathedral.
I've long admired the senior Schuler. Take a look at the "Possibility Thinker's Creed":
When faced with a mountain,
I WILL NOT QUIT!
I will keep on striving
until
I climb over,
find a pass through,
tunnel underneath,
or
simply stay
and
turn the mountain
into a gold mine
with
God's help!!
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This kind of "almost sounds right" stuff is what can snare honest-hearted immature seekers into resenting God if their much-repeated petitions go unfullfilled.
We are led, we do not lead God.
Consider how Satan tempted Jesus to evoke action from heaven, Jesus' response..."It is written, thou shall not tempt the Lord thy God" [Mt 4:7 or
Lk 4:12]
Faith comes by hearing. Faith is NOT the product of conjuring up a good idea and wishing really, really hard...without ceasing.
Are we tempting God? Is presumption a quality that God rewards? NO! Faith is a response (an AMEN) to a heavenly utterance (an unseen evidence). Ourhope is established upon the fact that you have been witness to its certainty on earth because it is already established in heavenly places.
Human diligence CAN PRODUCE stuff. Just look at all the 100-600 person assemblies that are able to support 3-4 FT employment lines, 2-3 vehicles, 1-2 buses, 1250/mo. utilities and a $700K mortgage.
...
Jesus provided a clear witness of the operation of Faith:
"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me" [Jn 5:30]
"And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. " [12:50]
Jn 8:28-30
Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am [he], and [that] I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
A similar witness as Jesus' prayer to his heavenly father in
Jn 17 includes:
"For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received [them], and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me."
Please note: I believe we should be faithful in matters concerning UNRIGHTEOUS MAMMON, but the purpose of this is to train us with a lifestyle that will enable us to be good stewards of righteousness.