Forced Vaccinations

RandyWayne · #1 01-06-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Then the fact is... you do believe that parents should be forced to have vaccinations.

Land of the free huh?

When it effect the whole population, yes. Going back to polio, it was nearly wiped out but NOW it is starting to make a comeback because no one is vaccinated for it anymore. Small pox on the other hand WAS wiped out and probably only exists in a few hidden labs scattered around the world (and in some terrorists labs).

And again, if your one of the 1-2% who don't vaccinate your kids then you still benefit from the 98-99% who do.

Digging4Truth · #2 01-06-2011, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

When it effect the whole population, yes.

How CAN it affect the whole population? Your kids (in this hypothetical scenario) were immunized. They can't catch it.

It can only affect those who were not immunized.

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Going back to polio, it was nearly wiped out but NOW it is starting to make a comeback because no one is vaccinated for it anymore. Small pox on the other hand WAS wiped out and probably only exists in a few hidden labs scattered around the world (and in some terrorists labs).

If it makes a rise then people will get vaccinated again. They have the vaccine and people who want it can have it. No problem.

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

And again, if your one of the 1-2% who don't vaccinate your kids then you still benefit from the 98-99% who do.

Indeed. Is this why you want the other 1-2% forced to receive the shots against their will, beliefs and/or convictions?

Pragmatist · #3 01-06-2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

When it effect the whole population, yes. Going back to polio, it was nearly wiped out but NOW it is starting to make a comeback because no one is vaccinated for it anymore. Small pox on the other hand WAS wiped out and probably only exists in a few hidden labs scattered around the world (and in some terrorists labs).

And again, if your one of the 1-2% who don't vaccinate your kids then you still benefit from the 98-99% who do.

Where is polio making a comeback? Last I heard it was only an issue in parts of Africa and parts of India. It was never eradicated as smallpox was.

And I'm anti-vax. If someone would like information as to why, I would highly recommend Sherri Tenpenny's book Saying No To Vaccines. She was an ER doctor that believed what the medical establishment was telling her, and when people came in to the ER with physical issues that happened a day or two after a vaccine, she would tell them it was just a coincidence. Until she went to a medical conference that discussed covering up vaccine related adverse reactions, and starting doing her own research.

shag · #4 01-06-2011, 06:52 PM

this was on msnbc today concerning vaccines and the british researcher's "autism fraud".

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40955417...and_parenting/

It streeses me a lot when it comes time for my kids to get vaccinations. Especially the live vaccines.
"The unknown"

Pragmatist · #5 01-06-2011, 06:59 PM

The problem is that in previous generations, there were far fewer vaccines given. People still had adverse reactions, but on a smaller scale. According to the current CDC schedule, children should be given 31 vaccines by the time they are 2 yrs old. Multiply the number of vaccines and you multiply the number of adverse reactions. Auto immune diseases are on the rise in children, but of course, it's just a coincidence, along with the rise in autism and autism spectrum disorders.

RandyWayne · #6 01-06-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by shag

this was on msnbc today concerning vaccines and the british researcher's "autism fraud".

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40955417...and_parenting/

It streeses me a lot when it comes time for my kids to get vaccinations. Especially the live vaccines.
"The unknown"

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/0...nk/?test=faces

ILG · #7 01-06-2011, 08:22 PM

I don't know how I feel about this topic. I see things from many angles.

RandyWayne · #8 01-06-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG

I don't know how I feel about this topic. I see things from many angles.

It is not black and white for me either. It is even fuzzier when asked about requiring medical care for a child. I still get very angry with I think of the Neuman case where they allowed their daughter to die when a single shot of insulin would have saved her. But the Scalia in me, if I were a judge, would probably find them innocent in a court of law, but then take them to the back of the court house and punch both in the faces (off the record of course) for being so ignorant and callous to their daughter.

Cindy · #9 01-06-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG

I don't know how I feel about this topic. I see things from many angles.

Yeah, I think most people just don't want to take the chance with the health of their children. But for those un-vaccinated, are they exposing others to illness and disease?

Digging4Truth · #10 01-06-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

Yeah, I think most people just don't want to take the chance with the health of their children. But for those un-vaccinated, are they exposing others to illness and disease?

I wouldn't think so. If someone is "un-vaccinated" then they are still susceptible to the disease. That is the whole purpose of vaccination... also call immunization. They are immune per the shot so anyone else getting the disease shouldn't have any affect on the immunized.