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01-23-2011, 02:50 PM
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Re: PAJC- THIEVES, LIARS, and HYPOCRITES
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
What do you challenge as being untrue Prax?
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Isn't the burden of proof on the accuser?
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01-23-2011, 02:55 PM
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Re: PAJC- THIEVES, LIARS, and HYPOCRITES
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Originally Posted by Liberal
Isn't the burden of proof on the accuser?
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Sounded like an opening statement to me.
Laying out the facts.
If the facts are not in dispute no proof is necessary.
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01-23-2011, 02:59 PM
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Re: PAJC- THIEVES, LIARS, and HYPOCRITES
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Sounded like an opening statement to me.
Laying out the facts.
If the facts are not in dispute no proof is necessary.
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So we're prepared here to convict someone on an accusation only if no one answers the accusation?
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01-23-2011, 03:00 PM
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Re: PAJC- THIEVES, LIARS, and HYPOCRITES
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So we're prepared here to convict someone on an accusation only if no one answers the accusation?
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And what exactly is.... "the accusation"
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01-23-2011, 03:03 PM
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Re: PAJC- THIEVES, LIARS, and HYPOCRITES
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And what exactly is.... "the accusation"
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Insinuation, connotation, inference of thieves, liars, and hypocrites....by someone.
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01-23-2011, 03:02 PM
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Re: PAJC- THIEVES, LIARS, and HYPOCRITES
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So we're prepared here to convict someone on an accusation only if no one answers the accusation?
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If you do not dispute the facts as being untrue then we have a summary judgment situation.
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01-23-2011, 03:04 PM
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Re: PAJC- THIEVES, LIARS, and HYPOCRITES
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If you do not dispute the facts as being untrue then we have a summary judgment situation.
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If there's no evidence, there isn't much of a case.
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01-23-2011, 03:05 PM
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Re: PAJC- THIEVES, LIARS, and HYPOCRITES
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If there's no evidence, there isn't much of a case.
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Not true. If the facts are agreed upon in a civil case the judge can rule on the case based on the undisputed facts.
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01-23-2011, 03:09 PM
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Re: PAJC- THIEVES, LIARS, and HYPOCRITES
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Not true. If the facts are agreed upon in a civil case the judge can rule on the case based on the undisputed facts.
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Ok well, I don't agree. But I've never seen a case presented without evidence, or at least, something presented as evidence.
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01-23-2011, 03:04 PM
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Re: PAJC- THIEVES, LIARS, and HYPOCRITES
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If you do not dispute the facts as being untrue then we have a summary judgment situation.
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Kinda works the same in debate or discussion.
"I don't like what you said.
What in particular was wrong?
Oh I don't know, I just don't like what you said"
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