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01-26-2011, 02:25 PM
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Re: The Results Of My Poll Are Shocking
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Originally Posted by The Mrs
Out of 1380 active members, you're taking the voices of 25 and coming up with a 'good' conclusion??? 
Wow! 
Some folks just aren't interested in voting apparently. I didn't. Doesn't mean anything other than I just wasn't interested.  |
Thats my point Sister. This is an Apostolic Forum. Only 25 people here cared enough to vote. The apathy is unbelievable. Then the majority who did care reject the very premise that Jesus is the Everlasting Father.
It is a crushing defeat for truth.
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01-26-2011, 02:26 PM
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Re: The Results Of My Poll Are Shocking
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Thats my point Sister. This is an Apostolic Forum. Only 25 people here cared enough to vote. The apathy is unbelievable. Then the majority who did care reject the very premise that Jesus is the Everlasting Father.
It is a crushing defeat for truth.
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01-26-2011, 02:41 PM
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Re: The Results Of My Poll Are Shocking
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Thats my point Sister. This is an Apostolic Forum. Only 25 people here cared enough to vote. The apathy is unbelievable. Then the majority who did care reject the very premise that Jesus is the Everlasting Father.
It is a crushing defeat for truth.
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Just because someone doesn't feel like taking a poll, shouldn't mean it's synonymous with apathy. It's a forum for crying out loud. Which means we get to pick and choose where we want to spend our time/energy.
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01-26-2011, 02:43 PM
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Re: The Results Of My Poll Are Shocking
When JESUS, the NAME, is distinguished as being God the Father, then I agree Jesus is the Father! Oneness teaches JESUS is the NAME of the Father. I never heard of oneness scholars who claimed JESUS is not the name of the Father. Jesus is not a name restricted to the Son. I think people mistaken SON for JESUS, when they hear Jesus is the name of the Father.
Since there is one person in the Godhead, and since a NAME points to a PERSON, Jesus is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
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01-26-2011, 02:47 PM
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Re: The Results Of My Poll Are Shocking
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Originally Posted by mfblume
When JESUS, the NAME, is distinguished as being God the Father, then I agree Jesus is the Father! Oneness teaches JESUS is the NAME of the Father. I never heard of oneness scholars who claimed JESUS is not the name of the Father. Jesus is not a name restricted to the Son. I think people mistaken SON for JESUS, when they hear Jesus is the name of the Father.
Since there is one person in the Godhead, and since a NAME points to a PERSON, Jesus is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
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Jesus is not a name restricted to the Son.
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I used to believe that. Not sure anymore...
Jesus surely identifies the person of the Messiah, expressed, incarnate and the "Father in flesh." But it would seem to me that the name "Jesus" exclusively refers to the Son of God, the Messiah, Anointed One, The Christ.
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01-26-2011, 02:46 PM
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ultra con (at least here)
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Re: The Results Of My Poll Are Shocking
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Thats my point Sister. This is an Apostolic Forum. Only 25 people here cared enough to vote. The apathy is unbelievable. Then the majority who did care reject the very premise that Jesus is the Everlasting Father.
It is a crushing defeat for truth.
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Actually no, YOUR question was Jesus God the Father. Even I said no.
They would have even voted no to that question as worded on APF or AFF.
Besides the true litmus test was is Jesus Son of God or God the Son.
100% said Son of God.
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01-26-2011, 02:49 PM
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Re: The Results Of My Poll Are Shocking
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Originally Posted by James Griffin
Actually no, YOUR question was Jesus God the Father. Even I said no.
They would have even voted no to that question as worded on APF or AFF.
Besides the true litmus test was is Jesus Son of God or God the Son.
100% said Son of God.
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Why isn't the TRUE litmus test:
"Do believe God is one?"
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"Do you believe God exists eternally in three persons which are one, or as one deity manifest in three personae?
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01-26-2011, 04:54 PM
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Love God, Love Your Neighbor
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Re: The Results Of My Poll Are Shocking
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Thats my point Sister. This is an Apostolic Forum. Only 25 people here cared enough to vote. The apathy is unbelievable. Then the majority who did care reject the very premise that Jesus is the Everlasting Father.
It is a crushing defeat for truth.
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Not voting doesn't mean a person is apathetic about their belief system. Some people just don't vote in polls, and some didn't like the wording of the poll.
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01-26-2011, 05:21 PM
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mary
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Re: The Results Of My Poll Are Shocking
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Thats my point Sister. This is an Apostolic Forum. Only 25 people here cared enough to vote. The apathy is unbelievable. Then the majority who did care reject the very premise that Jesus is the Everlasting Father.
It is a crushing defeat for truth.
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Some of us are just sick to death of the never-ending arguments and avoid those threads altogether.
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What we make of the Bible will never be as great a thing as what the Bible will - if we let it - make of us.~Rich Mullins
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.~Galileo Galilei
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01-26-2011, 11:38 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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For Michael
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Originally Posted by missourimary
Some of us are just sick to death of the never-ending arguments and avoid those threads altogether.
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In other words Mike, not everyone is a Godhead Ninja...seriously even through out all the Oneness churches not everyone is running around starting witch trials to hunt down those that won't say the words "Jesus is God the Father".
They avoid such issues and confrontations just like Missourimary here
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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