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View Poll Results: Do You Believe in Women Preachers?
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:09 AM
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It's still a biblical command. Can you not read?

Put away your eraser and quit trying to take away from the Word!
A greeting is not equivolent to God's order of creation & the violation there-of. "For Adam was FIRST formed, THEN Eve."

And, I HAVE done this before [as well as many I know]...did it say to do it "everytime":_____________? Nope! So, your silly "Kis" argument is moot in my case. And YES, I have said publically that we should be doing this still! Next.....
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:15 AM
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A greeting is not equivolent to God's order of creation & the violation there-of. "For Adam was FIRST formed, THEN Eve."

And, I HAVE done this before [as well as many I know]...did it say to do it "everytime":_____________? Nope! So, your silly "Kis" argument is moot in my case. And YES, I have said publically that we should be doing this still! Next.....
rdp do you believe that women are inherently more likely to be deceived than men?
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:47 AM
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A greeting is not equivolent to God's order of creation & the violation there-of. "For Adam was FIRST formed, THEN Eve."

And, I HAVE done this before [as well as many I know]...did it say to do it "everytime":_____________? Nope! So, your silly "Kis" argument is moot in my case. And YES, I have said publically that we should be doing this still! Next.....
You aren't consistent, RDP.

If it says this is how we should greet each other, and you don't think it's a cultural limitation -- but you say "well it didn't say EVERY time." That just sounds suspicious and quite silly.

Why on earth would I, a Westerner living in the 21st Century greet a brother with a kiss??? Does that make even a lick of sense, RDP? Really? The way you read the scriptures is like it's a code of conduct, a rule book even --- instead of a shared story, informing us about God.

So how often should we be smooching each other? Once a year? One in a lifetime? How do we get our laws consistent with that law book called scripture?
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Old 02-17-2011, 12:22 PM
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You aren't consistent, RDP.

If it says this is how we should greet each other, and you don't think it's a cultural limitation -- but you say "well it didn't say EVERY time." That just sounds suspicious and quite silly.

Why on earth would I, a Westerner living in the 21st Century greet a brother with a kiss??? Does that make even a lick of sense, RDP? Really? The way you read the scriptures is like it's a code of conduct, a rule book even --- instead of a shared story, informing us about God.

So how often should we be smooching each other? Once a year? One in a lifetime? How do we get our laws consistent with that law book called scripture?
This HAS GOT to be the silliest 'argument' I've ever heard in my life to attampt to invalidate I Tim. 2:11-15! Using your logic, NONE of the Bible is for us today....since we live as "Westerners in the 21st century"!?!? How in the world you can compare a greeting to God's order of headship is beyond me.

You simply refuse to accept I Tim. 2:11-15, so your best "argument" is to say, "Well, we don't greet each other w/ a holy kiss [& I've already told you that many do...for about the 5th time now!], so why should we take Paul seriously in I Tim. 2:11-15!" You can't be serious...this is much like the atheist argument that says that original life was planted here by aliens! This is what Ive been wasting my time w/??????????????????????????????
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Old 02-17-2011, 12:42 PM
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This HAS GOT to be the silliest 'argument' I've ever heard in my life to attampt to invalidate I Tim. 2:11-15! Using your logic, NONE of the Bible is for us today....since we live as "Westerners in the 21st century"!?!? How in the world you can compare a greeting to God's order of headship is beyond me.

You simply refuse to accept I Tim. 2:11-15, so your best "argument" is to say, "Well, we don't greet each other w/ a holy kiss [& I've already told you that many do...for about the 5th time now!], so why should we take Paul seriously in I Tim. 2:11-15!" You can't be serious...this is much like the atheist argument that says that original life was planted here by aliens! This is what Ive been wasting my time w/??????????????????????????????
I'm not trying to invalidate 1 Tim 2. Are you able to hit the pause button a second. I'm trying to prove cultural limitation do, in fact, exist in the witness of scripture. That's it.

Instead of addressing this issue as a reality, not even granting us a "yes, but" -- rather, you are dodging the point, or making remarks that you think we should still be smooching each other.

Calm down and take a breath.
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A greeting is not equivolent to God's order of creation & the violation there-of. "For Adam was FIRST formed, THEN Eve."

And, I HAVE done this before [as well as many I know]...did it say to do it "everytime":_____________? Nope! So, your silly "Kis" argument is moot in my case. And YES, I have said publically that we should be doing this still! Next.....
You are obfuscating the point here, again. The POINT is you are claiming Paul gave a commandment that forbids women to teach and preach (though Paul does not say preach) and Paul also said to greet each other with a kiss. So your evaluation of what is a commandment of God we have to keep is inconsistent and subjective
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You are obfuscating the point here, again. The POINT is you are claiming Paul gave a commandment that forbids women to teach and preach (though Paul does not say preach) and Paul also said to greet each other with a kiss. So your evaluation of what is a commandment of God we have to keep is inconsistent and subjective
Assertions are NOT evidence. But, if it makes ya' feel better about your false doctrines...go ahead! "PREACH the Word.....in all....INSTRUCTION [didasko, same word used in I Tim. 2:12!]." To Paul, "preaching" & "teaching" were synonymous terms, or are you telling us that "teaching is not preaching"???Oooops....Prax has done it again!
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