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02-16-2011, 10:09 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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It's still a biblical command. Can you not read?
Put away your eraser and quit trying to take away from the Word! 
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A greeting is not equivolent to God's order of creation & the violation there-of. "For Adam was FIRST formed, THEN Eve."
And, I HAVE done this before [as well as many I know]...did it say to do it "everytime":_____________? Nope! So, your silly "Kis" argument is moot in my case. And YES, I have said publically that we should be doing this still! Next.....
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02-16-2011, 10:15 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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A greeting is not equivolent to God's order of creation & the violation there-of. "For Adam was FIRST formed, THEN Eve."
And, I HAVE done this before [as well as many I know]...did it say to do it "everytime":_____________? Nope! So, your silly "Kis" argument is moot in my case. And YES, I have said publically that we should be doing this still! Next.....
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rdp do you believe that women are inherently more likely to be deceived than men?
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02-16-2011, 10:47 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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A greeting is not equivolent to God's order of creation & the violation there-of. "For Adam was FIRST formed, THEN Eve."
And, I HAVE done this before [as well as many I know]...did it say to do it "everytime":_____________? Nope! So, your silly "Kis" argument is moot in my case. And YES, I have said publically that we should be doing this still! Next.....
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You aren't consistent, RDP.
If it says this is how we should greet each other, and you don't think it's a cultural limitation -- but you say "well it didn't say EVERY time." That just sounds suspicious and quite silly.
Why on earth would I, a Westerner living in the 21st Century greet a brother with a kiss??? Does that make even a lick of sense, RDP? Really? The way you read the scriptures is like it's a code of conduct, a rule book even --- instead of a shared story, informing us about God.
So how often should we be smooching each other? Once a year? One in a lifetime? How do we get our laws consistent with that law book called scripture?
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02-17-2011, 12:22 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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You aren't consistent, RDP.
If it says this is how we should greet each other, and you don't think it's a cultural limitation -- but you say "well it didn't say EVERY time." That just sounds suspicious and quite silly.
Why on earth would I, a Westerner living in the 21st Century greet a brother with a kiss??? Does that make even a lick of sense, RDP? Really? The way you read the scriptures is like it's a code of conduct, a rule book even --- instead of a shared story, informing us about God.
So how often should we be smooching each other? Once a year? One in a lifetime? How do we get our laws consistent with that law book called scripture?
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This HAS GOT to be the silliest 'argument' I've ever heard in my life to attampt to invalidate I Tim. 2:11-15! Using your logic, NONE of the Bible is for us today....since we live as "Westerners in the 21st century"!?!? How in the world you can compare a greeting to God's order of headship is beyond me.
You simply refuse to accept I Tim. 2:11-15, so your best "argument" is to say, "Well, we don't greet each other w/ a holy kiss [& I've already told you that many do...for about the 5th time now!], so why should we take Paul seriously in I Tim. 2:11-15!" You can't be serious...this is much like the atheist argument that says that original life was planted here by aliens! This is what Ive been wasting my time w/??????????????????????????????
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02-17-2011, 12:42 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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This HAS GOT to be the silliest 'argument' I've ever heard in my life to attampt to invalidate I Tim. 2:11-15! Using your logic, NONE of the Bible is for us today....since we live as "Westerners in the 21st century"!?!? How in the world you can compare a greeting to God's order of headship is beyond me.
You simply refuse to accept I Tim. 2:11-15, so your best "argument" is to say, "Well, we don't greet each other w/ a holy kiss [& I've already told you that many do...for about the 5th time now!], so why should we take Paul seriously in I Tim. 2:11-15!" You can't be serious...this is much like the atheist argument that says that original life was planted here by aliens! This is what Ive been wasting my time w/??????????????????????????????
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I'm not trying to invalidate 1 Tim 2. Are you able to hit the pause button a second. I'm trying to prove cultural limitation do, in fact, exist in the witness of scripture. That's it.
Instead of addressing this issue as a reality, not even granting us a "yes, but" -- rather, you are dodging the point, or making remarks that you think we should still be smooching each other.
Calm down and take a breath.
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02-16-2011, 12:28 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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A greeting is not equivolent to God's order of creation & the violation there-of. "For Adam was FIRST formed, THEN Eve."
And, I HAVE done this before [as well as many I know]...did it say to do it "everytime":_____________? Nope! So, your silly "Kis" argument is moot in my case. And YES, I have said publically that we should be doing this still! Next.....
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You are obfuscating the point here, again. The POINT is you are claiming Paul gave a commandment that forbids women to teach and preach (though Paul does not say preach) and Paul also said to greet each other with a kiss. So your evaluation of what is a commandment of God we have to keep is inconsistent and subjective
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02-16-2011, 12:29 PM
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02-17-2011, 01:08 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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You are obfuscating the point here, again. The POINT is you are claiming Paul gave a commandment that forbids women to teach and preach (though Paul does not say preach) and Paul also said to greet each other with a kiss. So your evaluation of what is a commandment of God we have to keep is inconsistent and subjective
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Assertions are NOT evidence. But, if it makes ya' feel better about your false doctrines...go ahead! "PREACH the Word.....in all....INSTRUCTION [didasko, same word used in I Tim. 2:12!]." To Paul, "preaching" & "teaching" were synonymous terms, or are you telling us that "teaching is not preaching"???Oooops....Prax has done it again!
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