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Originally Posted by Timmy
Your answer to my question "But do the 'saved' somehow stop 'loving evil', while the 'lost' (whether by choice or simply by never hearing the gospel) somehow 'love evil'?" was "Yes, the children of the devil love evil and the children of God love good." It's a common technique in conversation to make sure one understands the other party by paraphrasing and asking if it's correct. So, by "children of the devil" did you mean "the lost", or not? And are "the lost" those who have not obeyed Acts 2:38, or not? Were you answering my question about the saved and the lost, or not? It seemed like everything I said in my paraphrase logically followed from what you (and perhaps others) wrote. If I got it wrong, you could just correct me, rather than bash me. But suit yourself.
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The unsaved Timmy are children of the devil regardless of WHY they are unsaved. Yes the unsaved love evil. The saved hate evil and love good. If you want to discuss HOW someone get's saved the make sure that is your question to begin with. Thread title....where to the lost spend eternity. You did not ask are the lost only those that don't obey acts 2:38
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Who's putting words in whose mouth now?
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Timmy, if you are here just to troll and fight with us, you might as well pack your bags and go home. If you want to know what we believe and why then we can do that, but I have no patience for someone that is just here to bait people and I think the other admins are in agreement
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I have tried to get you folks to explain your beliefs with scripture. You have tried to do so. It hasn't worked, so far. If you want to give up, fine. I'll go my way, and will live my life as I see fit and pleasing to God, and it won't bother me one iota if you think I'm not.
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See, Timmy, I have no said one thing about how you live your life pleasing to God. Yet you keep making emotive comments like that. Classic signs of a troll. Now I am telling you, if you want to discuss scriptures I am all for that and I will personally discuss scriptures with you.
You asked where do the lost go and the answer was the lake of fire...do I need to quote it for you or do you already know what verse I am refering to/?
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Emotional rhetoric? Like concluding from what has been written here that I must be a child of the devil and love evil? I am a member of the class you've defined. If that doesn't make me a child of the devil, what does it do? Emotion or not, it's just simple logic. (Again, correct me if I'm wrong!)
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I never said one thing about you personally as to being a child of anything. I never said you were lost or love evl or were going to hell. And an emotive argument is one that attempts to garner sympathetic votes or make someone feel guilty by reason of emotions. Truth is based on scriptures, not on whether or not you can garner a sympathetic vote or make someone feel guilty for saying you or anyone else is not saved. Again,what did you come here for? Approval? Or do you want to discuss what we believe and why?
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And yes, I've read the rules. I'm here to learn about your faith, as provided in the rules. And in doing so, perhaps I have stirred the pot, and even annoyed some of you. I can't help it if you cannot answer my questions convincingly. Of course, you'll say I'm not trying to understand, just want to make trouble. You guys are good at reading minds.
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See, someone that says "I can't help it if you cannot answer my questions convincingly" is not really someone that is here with an honest intent to discuss and learn, but sounds more like trolling.
Now, do you have any more questions on scriptures that I can answer and will you be answering our questions?