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02-25-2011, 05:57 PM
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Re: THIS is True Love!!!
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OP2, we can speak the truth with kindness, in fact many do on AFF.
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How much kinder can I get?? That's the whole point I'm trying to make! I couldn't possibly be more kind than to sound the trumpet of alarm that would spare many people from eternal damnation! Telling someone if they believe that Jesus is Lord, they're saved, is NOT kind!!! It's horrible!! If that is the truth, then Satan will be right there in heaven too because he believes!
This is the ultimate kind of love and kindness, to warn people of the error of there ways!
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02-25-2011, 06:08 PM
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Re: THIS is True Love!!!
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Originally Posted by OldPathsII
How much kinder can I get?? That's the whole point I'm trying to make! I couldn't possibly be more kind than to sound the trumpet of alarm that would spare many people from eternal damnation! Telling someone if they believe that Jesus is Lord, they're saved, is NOT kind!!! It's horrible!! If that is the truth, then Satan will be right there in heaven too because he believes!
This is the ultimate kind of love and kindness, to warn people of the error of there ways!
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No one can say Jesus is Lord except by the Spirit. 1 Corinthians 12:3, paraphrased
You believe there is one God? That is good, even the demons believe and tremble! James 2:19, paraphrased
Would you mind explaining these verses in relation to your beliefs?
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"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition — and then admit that we just don’t want to do it."
-Steven Colbert
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02-25-2011, 06:11 PM
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Re: THIS is True Love!!!
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Originally Posted by Phoenix
No one can say Jesus is Lord except by the Spirit. 1 Corinthians 12:3, paraphrased
You believe there is one God? That is good, even the demons believe and tremble! James 2:19, paraphrased
Would you mind explaining these verses in relation to your beliefs?
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Id like to hear YOU explain it, my friend!
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02-25-2011, 06:20 PM
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Re: THIS is True Love!!!
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Originally Posted by OldPathsII
How much kinder can I get?? That's the whole point I'm trying to make! I couldn't possibly be more kind than to sound the trumpet of alarm that would spare many people from eternal damnation! Telling someone if they believe that Jesus is Lord, they're saved, is NOT kind!!! It's horrible!! If that is the truth, then Satan will be right there in heaven too because he believes!
This is the ultimate kind of love and kindness, to warn people of the error of there ways!
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Originally Posted by Phoenix
No one can say Jesus is Lord except by the Spirit. 1 Corinthians 12:3, paraphrased
You believe there is one God? That is good, even the demons believe and tremble! James 2:19, paraphrased
Would you mind explaining these verses in relation to your beliefs?
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Originally Posted by OldPathsII
Id like to hear YOU explain it, my friend!
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I'm having trouble understanding what you believe. You say that Satan believes Jesus is Lord. Can you provide Scripture for that? I did provide the Scripture that says one can only say "Jesus is Lord" by the Spirit.
If I remember correctly, you said in another post that one must believe in the Oneness doctrine in order to be saved. The demons do believe in the oneness of God and yet they are not saved.
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"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition — and then admit that we just don’t want to do it."
-Steven Colbert
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02-25-2011, 06:26 PM
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Re: THIS is True Love!!!
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Originally Posted by Phoenix
I'm having trouble understanding what you believe. You say that Satan believes Jesus is Lord. Can you provide Scripture for that? I did provide the Scripture that says one can only say "Jesus is Lord" by the Spirit.
If I remember correctly, you said in another post that one must believe in the Oneness doctrine in order to be saved. The demons do believe in the oneness of God and yet they are not saved.
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Nice try at twisting my words, my friend. I didn't claim that believing in the oneness of God saves us. Sorry, that kind of twisting is what gets so many in trouble with reading the bible.
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02-25-2011, 06:27 PM
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Re: THIS is True Love!!!
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Originally Posted by OldPathsII
Nice try at twisting my words, my friend. I didn't claim that believing in the oneness of God saves us. Sorry, that kind of twisting is what gets so many in trouble with reading the bible.
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Well, it's a good thing I'm not reading the Bible right now.  Let me see if I can find the quote I think I'm remembering.
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"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition — and then admit that we just don’t want to do it."
-Steven Colbert
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02-25-2011, 06:32 PM
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Re: THIS is True Love!!!
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Originally Posted by OldPathsII
I listen to a lot of you pretend-Apostolics talk about grace and love and forgiveness and acceptance and all kinds of touchy-gooey stuff that you think is love. But accepting someone as they are and never demanding repentance, never telling them the truth of their condition IS NOT LOVE!!!
So I just want to tell all of you that:
...have not obeyed Acts 2:38,
...that do not teach it as the ONLY way to salvation,
...who don't demand that trinitarians be re-baptized,
...you men that think it's ok to grow your hair long and wear shorts,
...you women who cut your hair, wear makeup, and wear pants,
...who have not embraced the Oneness of God,
I love all of you SO much that I must tell you, if any of that list described you, you will burn in a devil's hell for all eternity. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth and you will be one of them!! You won't care about your makeup and jewelry and shorts then!! Jesus will not trip through the aisles of a dark movie theatre to include you in the rapture!!!!
Now THAT is true love!!!
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Originally Posted by OldPathsII
Nice try at twisting my words, my friend. I didn't claim that believing in the oneness of God saves us. Sorry, that kind of twisting is what gets so many in trouble with reading the bible.
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Ok, I found the quote, and because you're accusing me of twisting your words, here they are in full context with the part bolded that I have questions about.
What did you mean when you said "So I just want to tell all of you that: ...who have not embraced the Oneness of God, if any of that list described you, you will burn in a devil's hell for all eternity."?
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"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition — and then admit that we just don’t want to do it."
-Steven Colbert
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02-25-2011, 06:36 PM
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Re: THIS is True Love!!!
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Originally Posted by Phoenix
Ok, I found the quote, and because you're accusing me of twisting your words, here they are in full context with the part bolded that I have questions about.
What did you mean when you said "So I just want to tell all of you that: ...who have not embraced the Oneness of God, if any of that list described you, you will burn in a devil's hell for all eternity."?
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Opie Deuce is just ranting from his gut. His brain isn't engaged in this. Maybe his wife failed to put enough grease in his gravy this evening. Dunno. The guy's just not "there" mentally.
Even his "Amen Corner" has abandoned him.
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