Abusive Preachers

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by Socialite

None of them would refer to themselves as dictators, of course. They'd clothe it in different clothes.

Pixler has never been UPCI to my knowledge, though I heard he was on staff in Northern California at a UPCI-endorsed church. Anyone can confirm? Maybe even possibly San Jose. The independent brethren he hung with though were all in the mold of Phil White and the PSR Boys. But Pixler seems like a fish out of water with those characters.

What is PSR?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

What is PSR?

Personal Strength Renewal. They disbanded because one of the preachers allows makeup, or so says the rumor mill. West Coast Conference replaced PSR, some of the same men involved.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by berkeley

Personal Strength Renewal. They disbanded because one of the preachers allows makeup, or so says the rumor mill. West Coast Conference replaced PSR, some of the same men involved.

Yeah, I think it also had to do with the conference becoming increasingly who can preach the holiest. For example:

Speaker 1: "My God, all these compromisers, we don't believe in Christmas Trees. Those are the debil."

Speaker 2: "God is looking for a faithful remnant that won't wear sideburns past the tops of their ears."

Speaker 3: "This may be tight, but it's right... some of these churches that sing these new songs with rock beats, getting rid of song books, and not wearing white collared shirts."

It just got worse and worse (or better and better, depending on your view).

PSR was, in my opinion, the UC's of UPCI and Independents, and was a pre-cursor in many ways for those who eventually joined together in the WPF (though many of the UC's in that group went Independent). But the speakers were always critical of the UPCI, and things they were "concerned" about.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Yeah, I think it also had to do with the conference becoming increasingly who can preach the holiest. For example:

Speaker 1: "My God, all these compromisers, we don't believe in Christmas Trees. Those are the debil."

Speaker 2: "God is looking for a faithful remnant that won't wear sideburns past the tops of their ears."

Speaker 3: "This may be tight, but it's right... some of these churches that sing these new songs with rock beats, getting rid of song books, and not wearing white collared shirts."

It just got worse and worse (or better and better, depending on your view).

PSR was, in my opinion, the UC's of UPCI and Independents, and was a pre-cursor in many ways for those who eventually joined together in the WPF (though many of the UC's in that group went Independent). But the speakers were always critical of the UPCI, and things they were "concerned" about.

I am convinced there is a dark spirit about that sort of slant. And it is cruel.

[Theophil]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I am convinced there is a dark spirit about that sort of slant. And it is cruel.

Absolutely. Dark and perhaps demonic. While men and women argue about irrelevant issues, becoming more and more exclusive, the world goes to hell. Sounds like a devilish plan to me.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Yeah, I think it also had to do with the conference becoming increasingly who can preach the holiest. For example:

Speaker 1: "My God, all these compromisers, we don't believe in Christmas Trees. Those are the debil."

Speaker 2: "God is looking for a faithful remnant that won't wear sideburns past the tops of their ears."

Speaker 3: "This may be tight, but it's right... some of these churches that sing these new songs with rock beats, getting rid of song books, and not wearing white collared shirts."

It just got worse and worse (or better and better, depending on your view).

PSR was, in my opinion, the UC's of UPCI and Independents, and was a pre-cursor in many ways for those who eventually joined together in the WPF (though many of the UC's in that group went Independent). But the speakers were always critical of the UPCI, and things they were "concerned" about.

I don't believe that most of the young people care for this kind of stuff. Some of my UC friends were laughing about the preacher that spent 20 or 45 minutes preaching against patterns on nylons. Another or maybe the same guy preached against the internet, not the evils of the internet, but the internet. Funny, you can find WCC online.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by berkeley

I don't believe that most of the young people care for this kind of stuff. Some of my UC friends were laughing about the preacher that spent 20 or 45 minutes preaching against patterns on nylons. Another or maybe the same guy preached against the internet, not the evils of the internet, but the internet. Funny, you can find WCC online.

Of course, the UC youngsters and other UC pastors that find WCC silly, I also enjoy hearing their logic explaining WHY it's silly. Both claim and cite the golden finger of pastoral authority, not biblical precedent.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Yeah, I think it also had to do with the conference becoming increasingly who can preach the holiest. For example:

Speaker 1: "My God, all these compromisers, we don't believe in Christmas Trees. Those are the debil."

Speaker 2: "God is looking for a faithful remnant that won't wear sideburns past the tops of their ears."

Speaker 3: "This may be tight, but it's right... some of these churches that sing these new songs with rock beats, getting rid of song books, and not wearing white collared shirts."

It just got worse and worse (or better and better, depending on your view).

PSR was, in my opinion, the UC's of UPCI and Independents, and was a pre-cursor in many ways for those who eventually joined together in the WPF (though many of the UC's in that group went Independent). But the speakers were always critical of the UPCI, and things they were "concerned" about.

Originally Posted by berkeley

I don't believe that most of the young people care for this kind of stuff. Some of my UC friends were laughing about the preacher that spent 20 or 45 minutes preaching against patterns on nylons. Another or maybe the same guy preached against the internet, not the evils of the internet, but the internet. Funny, you can find WCC online.

My first pastor was pretty conservative and he did not want us mixed up with PSR

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

My first pastor was pretty conservative and he did not want us mixed up with PSR

define conservative

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by berkeley

define conservative

Everything you consider conservative as far as what church you came from except he allowed wedding bands and he voted to approve the video resolution