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Old 04-07-2011, 11:02 AM
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What if I responded with, "He didn't spend $2 million dollars to 'hide' his birth certificate." ???

Balls in your court...
We'd probably be at a stalemate. I've read where he is spending 2 million in leagal fees, have seen the copy of his Kenyan BC. So, who knows what can be faked and is faked or is real?

I just have to make up my own mind. I'm just wondering out loud. He could have been born IN the White House for all I really care, I won't vote for him in any case for any reason at any time.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:08 AM
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We'd probably be at a stalemate. I've read where he is spending 2 million in leagal fees, have seen the copy of his Kenyan BC. So, who knows what can be faked and is faked or is real?

I just have to make up my own mind. I'm just wondering out loud. He could have been born IN the White House for all I really care, I won't vote for him in any case for any reason at any time.
The "copy of his Kenyan Birth Certificate" was used by Pajamas TV as part of their April Fools joke. Using someone else's April Fools joke as an argument against the President and his policies is embarrassing.

Sorry Sandie. You and I obvious have a lot in common and certainly agree about the the overall direction our country needs to be going in... but using this "argument" should be embarrassing for you.

coadie is beyond shame, so I don't expect him to wake up anytime soon. But Sandie, this one's a loser. Let it go.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:12 AM
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The "copy of his Kenyan Birth Certificate" was used by Pajamas TV as part of their April Fools joke. Using someone else's April Fools joke as an argument against the President and his policies is embarrassing.

Sorry Sandie. You and I obvious have a lot in common and certainly agree about the the overall direction our country needs to be going in... but using this "argument" should be embarrassing for you.

coadie is beyond shame, so I don't expect him to wake up anytime soon. But Sandie, this one's a loser. Let it go.
Well, I certainly don't plan on making this any kind of centerpiece in my opposition to Obama's presidency. There's enough "ammuniton" for that regard.
It just peeked my curiosity when my husband (a life long democrat, but pro-life, pro-family) mentioned it the other night. If you knew him, you'd know why I became wide eyed! I didn't even think he heard of or knew of the controversy! I better keep a better eye on that guy!
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:13 AM
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We'd probably be at a stalemate. I've read where he is spending 2 million in leagal fees, have seen the copy of his Kenyan BC. So, who knows what can be faked and is faked or is real?

I just have to make up my own mind. I'm just wondering out loud. He could have been born IN the White House for all I really care, I won't vote for him in any case for any reason at any time.
You think that we're "at a stalemate" but we're not. Obama did not "spend $2 million dollars in legal fees to hide his birth certificate." If anything, he spent about $20 dollars to get a copy and have his people release it.

You can't prove nor even offer a bit of evidence for the "$2 million dollar" claim. There simply is no evidence for this. It's something some conspiracy nut invented.

And then next, you offer an April Fools Day joke from Pajamas TV as "proof" Obama was "born in Kenya." Do you see what I mean by "embarrassing?"

... and good for you for NOT voting for him. We MUST oppose his agenda. And we need you as a part of that fight.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:15 AM
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You think that we're "at a stalemate" but we're not. Obama did not "spend $2 million dollars in legal fees to hide his birth certificate." If anything, he spent about $20 dollars to get a copy and have his people release it.

You can't prove nor even offer a bit of evidence for the "$2 million dollar" claim. There simply is no evidence for this. It's something some conspiracy nut invented.

And then next, you offer an April Fools Day joke from Pajamas TV as "proof" Obama was "born in Kenya." Do you see what I mean by "embarrassing?"
I didn't offer anything. I never even clicked on the link that Coadie posted.
I saw the copy in an entirely different setting.
Sheesh....I'm curious, I'll investigate and make up my own mind and don't have a single plan to go any further with it one way or the other.
How's that for not being "embarassing"?
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:18 AM
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You think that we're "at a stalemate" but we're not. Obama did not "spend $2 million dollars in legal fees to hide his birth certificate." If anything, he spent about $20 dollars to get a copy and have his people release it.

You can't prove nor even offer a bit of evidence for the "$2 million dollar" claim. There simply is no evidence for this. It's something some conspiracy nut invented.

And then next, you offer an April Fools Day joke from Pajamas TV as "proof" Obama was "born in Kenya." Do you see what I mean by "embarrassing?"

... and good for you for NOT voting for him. We MUST oppose his agenda. And we need you as a part of that fight.
I plan on actively opposing his attempts at a second term. (Please, Jesus!) I'll do whatever I can for whoever opposes him at this point.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:21 AM
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I plan on actively opposing his attempts at a second term. (Please, Jesus!) I'll do whatever I can for whoever opposes him at this point.
If the GOP decides to major on this issue, they will do more to garner support for President Obama and heap the billions into his campaign war chest.


To think that Trump has granted some form of legitimacy to this hateful rumor is troubling to me, seriously troubling.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:25 AM
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If the GOP decides to major on this issue, they will do more to garner support for President Obama and heap the billions into his campaign war chest.
Shudder! yikes, but does he need more then one billion?
I don't think the GOP is going to major on this.


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To think that Trump has granted some form of legitimacy to this hateful rumor is troubling to me, seriously troubling.
I don't know if I'd call it "hateful", I didn't think it was hateful when John McCain's birth place was questioned, did you?
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Shudder! yikes, but does he need more then one billion?
I don't think the GOP is going to major on this.




I don't know if I'd call it "hateful", I didn't think it was hateful when John McCain's birth place was questioned, did you?
This goes beyond a simple questioning.

He gave an answer, provided support for his natural birth and it is still not enough.

It will NEVER be enough because the whole debacle is based on hate, nothing less.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:31 AM
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This goes beyond a simple questioning.

He gave an answer, provided support for his natural birth and it is still not enough.

It will NEVER be enough because the whole debacle is based on hate, nothing less.
What about when John McCain's birth place was questioned? Did you find that hateful?

It's really bothersome when someone can't oppose, disagree, or even be curious without being labeled full of hate.
As Christians, we should be aware that is a very serious charge and be able to know for 100% fact that is the case. Otherwise, we've bared false witness.

I supported McCain/Palin, I've heard people say things about Palin that make this whole BC thing pale in comparison, yet I won't charged them with "hate", unless they say so.
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