Donald Trump Calls for Obama Birth Certificate

[Seascapes]

I heard on MSNBC yesterday, that the republican party is turning into a three ring circus with the clowns like Beck, Trump, Palin and Michelle Bachman. (Just to name a few). If I claimed to be a republican, I would be a shame to say so. Imagine these clownish folks being the President of our country....LOL I wonder when the republican party will get someone serious to run for the office of President. I guess it is hard to find someone that could stand up against President Obama. The republicans can't find anything else against this man's reputation, to bring him down, they have to keep harping on a birth certificate when it has been proven over and over and over....face it republicans... President Obama was born in Hawaii, get over it.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Seascapes

I heard on MSNBC yesterday, that the republican party is turning into a three ring circus with the clowns like Beck, Trump, Palin and Michelle Bachman. (Just to name a few). If I claimed to be a republican, I would be a shame to say so. Imagine these clownish folks being the President of our country....LOL I wonder when the republican party will get someone serious to run for the office of President. I guess it is hard to find someone that could stand up against President Obama. The republicans can't find anything else against this man's reputation, to bring him down, they have to keep harping on a birth certificate when it has been proven over and over and over....face it republicans... President Obama was born in Hawaii, get over it.

You know the world has been turned upside down when I agree with Seascapes.
I have not commented very much on this issue, because I really had not read about it.
Over the last couple of weeks I have been reading up on it and I have reached the conclusion that BHO was born in Hawaii.
On the outside chance that I am wrong, I still believe that you will never be able to "prove" that he was not.
The reason this issue did not interest me, was because it would not have changed my mind about him, either way.
It is not that I personally dislike BHO, but I do intensely dislike his policies.
What this "birther" crowd is doing is letting a smokescreen deflect their efforts from stopping his re-election.
This issue may very well help propel him to another 4 years.
And if it does, the "birthers" will have helped.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

You know the world has been turned upside down when I agree with Seascapes.
I have not commented very much on this issue, because I really had not read about it.
Over the last couple of weeks I have been reading up on it and I have reached the conclusion that BHO was born in Hawaii.
On the outside chance that I am wrong, I still believe that you will never be able to "prove" that he was not.
The reason this issue did not interest me, was because it would not have changed my mind about him, either way.
It is not that I personally dislike BHO, but I do intensely dislike his policies.
What this "birther" crowd is doing is letting a smokescreen deflect their efforts from stopping his re-election.
This issue may very well help propel him to another 4 years.
And if it does, the "birthers" will have helped.

I disagree. I think if there is enough doubt that he has a right to be president will make people look at him a little more intently. Also, if they look at his track record he shouldn't even have a chance.

But some don't really care that he has taken more time off than any president in history. NOT to mention he does not listen to what the American people want.

[Seascapes]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

You know the world has been turned upside down when I agree with Seascapes.
I have not commented very much on this issue, because I really had not read about it.
Over the last couple of weeks I have been reading up on it and I have reached the conclusion that BHO was born in Hawaii.
On the outside chance that I am wrong, I still believe that you will never be able to "prove" that he was not.
The reason this issue did not interest me, was because it would not have changed my mind about him, either way.
It is not that I personally dislike BHO, but I do intensely dislike his policies.
What this "birther" crowd is doing is letting a smokescreen deflect their efforts from stopping his re-election.
This issue may very well help propel him to another 4 years.
And if it does, the "birthers" will have helped.

WOW ! aegsm76 .... I am glad that you agreed with me sorta, and I also agree with you sorta. This stupidity is hurting the republican party.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Seascapes

WOW ! aegsm76 .... I am glad that you agreed with me sorta, and I also agree with you sorta. This stupidity is hurting the republican party.

It's akin to the "Bush/Hitler" stuff that we had to listen to for 8 years. It's also similar to the Dem conspiracy theories about how "the Supreme Court handed the election to Bush after Al Gore had already won it..."

There's lots of inanity to go around.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by pelathais

It's akin to the "Bush/Hitler" stuff that we had to listen to for 8 years. It's also similar to the Dem conspiracy theories about how "the Supreme Court handed the election to Bush after Al Gore had already won it..."

There's lots of inanity to go around.

IMO, even if someone privately suspects the president might not be a natural born citizen, they should keep it to themselves, rather than associate themselves with groups many people consider hysterical and wacko. It's not smart, politically speaking.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

IMO, even if someone privately suspects the president might not be a natural born citizen, they should keep it to themselves, rather than associate themselves with groups many people consider hysterical and wacko. It's not smart, politically speaking.

No. This is still a free country,. In fact it is wrong for people to be labeled hysterical and wacko because there are red flags.

Labeling is a way to cover child abusers and many forms of misdeeds.

We even have whistleblower laws because of attacks on people that raise questions and are hassled and more for reporting suspicious behavior.

I agree things are not smart policically. Either way. Shunning, reporting accusing, enabling etc.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

IMO, even if someone privately suspects the president might not be a natural born citizen, they should keep it to themselves, rather than associate themselves with groups many people consider hysterical and wacko. It's not smart, politically speaking.

This is the truth.
Even if BHO was not born in the US, what do you think the likelihood of proving this would be.
I would say it is pretty much zero.
So, let's move on to attacking his policies, which I believe are destroying this country.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

This is the truth.
Even if BHO was not born in the US, what do you think the likelihood of proving this would be.
I would say it is pretty much zero.
So, let's move on to attacking his policies, which I believe are destroying this country.

I can name 3 policies that tie back to his behavior of non cooperation on his bc.

Had he been forced by a strong judge to make an appearance to show the real source documents, would he have been broken of stubborness.

Obama has a court order that stated his drilling ban is illegal He ignores that because he got by with his BC
Obama has a court order declaring the Obamacare bill unconstitutional all or in part He is ignoring that ruling because he has avoided legal compliance in the past
Obama fired an Inspector general in SF because the Inspector found Obama's friend cheating on money. Obama refused to cooperate with the law on how Inspectors general are assigned or terminated. He did it over night , ignored the law because he can.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Seascapes

I heard on MSNBC yesterday, that the republican party is turning into a three ring circus with the clowns like Beck, Trump, Palin and Michelle Bachman. (Just to name a few). If I claimed to be a republican, I would be a shame to say so. Imagine these clownish folks being the President of our country....LOL I wonder when the republican party will get someone serious to run for the office of President. I guess it is hard to find someone that could stand up against President Obama. The republicans can't find anything else against this man's reputation, to bring him down, they have to keep harping on a birth certificate when it has been proven over and over and over....face it republicans... President Obama was born in Hawaii, get over it.

This comment coming from someone that thinks BO is doing a good job, give no credence to the comment.

I like Palin, of course, I'm sure you parrot whatever the liberal media feeds you. I like what I have heard on Michelle Bachman as well.

Any that you mentioned would be 100% better than what we have.