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Old 05-02-2011, 09:21 AM
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I think it's unfair to not credit President Obama with this. If it had happened during President Bush's presidency, we would have done that, right?
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:25 AM
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I think it's unfair to not credit President Obama with this. If it had happened during President Bush's presidency, we would have done that, right?
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:38 AM
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I think it's unfair to not credit President Obama with this. If it had happened during President Bush's presidency, we would have done that, right?
No one has a problem with Obama getting some credit as it happened under his watch. What we do have a problem with is the not acknowledging that Bush's leadership laid the groundwork to get it done. Everyone - Bush, Obama and military should get equal credit for this job.

The courier they "followed" was identified in 2007 and in 2009 they located where the man operated. The security steps that were taken, didn't allow them to pinpoint the location until August.

I can only surmise that they followed him for some time to gather up more intelligence. It was an ongoing search and Bush should not be excluded in the credit.
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No one has a problem with Obama getting some credit as it happened under his watch. What we do have a problem with is the not acknowledging that Bush's leadership laid the groundwork to get it done. Everyone - Bush, Obama and military should get equal credit for this job.

The courier they "followed" was identified in 2007 and in 2009 they located where the man operated. The security steps that were taken, didn't allow them to pinpoint the location until August.

I can only surmise that they followed him for some time to gather up more intelligence. It was an ongoing search and Bush should not be excluded in the credit.
No, I don't think that going to Iraq to get Saddam was anything to do with getting Osama bin Laden.
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No one has a problem with Obama getting some credit as it happened under his watch. What we do have a problem with is the not acknowledging that Bush's leadership laid the groundwork to get it done. Everyone - Bush, Obama and military should get equal credit for this job.

The courier they "followed" was identified in 2007 and in 2009 they located where the man operated. The security steps that were taken, didn't allow them to pinpoint the location until August.

I can only surmise that they followed him for some time to gather up more intelligence. It was an ongoing search and Bush should not be excluded in the credit.
PO, it's good to see you still going strong.
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As difficult as it would be , I think the one thing you might have to give the President credit for is his consistent stance that we should stop focusing on Iraq. That is the one element of his approach that I whole heartedly agree with. Iraq was a distraction from the real war on terror. Pulling some out of Iraq and focusing on Afghanistan and Pakistan has paid off IMO...that's IF Osama is dead L0L
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As difficult as it would be , I think the one thing you might have to give the President credit for is his consistent stance that we should stop focusing on Iraq. That is the one element of his approach that I whole heartedly agree with. Iraq was a distraction from the real war on terror. Pulling some out of Iraq and focusing on Afghanistan and Pakistan has paid off IMO...that's IF Osama is dead L0L
Of course, I'm always sorry to disagree, but Iraq has never been irrelevant.

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So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors. Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.

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Of course, I'm always sorry to disagree, but Iraq has never been irrelevant.

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I'm sorry, but it should have never become such a focal point in my opinion. The war on terror (those who attacked us) has always been primarily about Al-quaeda and their strongholds in Afghanistan/Pakistan. Iraq was becoming a distraction (in addition to being basically unwinnable)
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