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View Poll Results: Is it wrong to call the Messiah Yeshua?
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05-12-2011, 01:07 PM
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Re: Is It Wrong To Call Jesus Yeshua?
Basically, why bother? It appears elitist.
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05-12-2011, 01:15 PM
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Re: Is It Wrong To Call Jesus Yeshua?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Basically, why bother? It appears elitist.
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That is what most of us have tried to get away from an elitist and sectarian movement. These guys get on the radio here in Atlanta that were "Apostolic" and they sound like two hillbillies from the sticks that do not have an ounce of education and scream and yell about that JESUS means a DOG and the J word was not even invented 400 years ago and all kinds of absolutely crazy and weird things about YESHUA and now they are fighting about how to pronounce it or spell it and it is just WEIRD WEIRD WEIRD!
The truth is - they get weirder and people that get into all that get weirder all the time.
Come on guys - Get away from WEIRD!
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05-12-2011, 02:30 PM
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Re: Is It Wrong To Call Jesus Yeshua?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Basically, why bother? It appears elitist.
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It only concerns me because often those that use it are the same ones that insist it's wrong to say "Jesus"
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-12-2011, 02:39 PM
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Re: Is It Wrong To Call Jesus Yeshua?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
It only concerns me because often those that use it are the same ones that insist it's wrong to say "Jesus"
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Agreed. And if MTD does not think it is wrong to say JESUS, then why not get away from the appearance of that and say Jesus as much as Yehshua?
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05-12-2011, 02:43 PM
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Re: Is It Wrong To Call Jesus Yeshua?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Agreed. And if MTD does not think it is wrong to say JESUS, then why not get away from the appearance of that and say Jesus as much as Yehshua?
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I think I brought that up before. For some reason MTD does that. He will stop saying Jesus and start saying Yeshua. Im not sure why
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-12-2011, 04:19 PM
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Re: Is It Wrong To Call Jesus Yeshua?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I think I brought that up before. For some reason MTD does that. He will stop saying Jesus and start saying Yeshua. Im not sure why
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Its so simple. Because I like using the English Jesus. And I like using the Hebrew/Aramaic Yeshua. I like it because it is the original. I have never said or even thought I dont like the name Jesus. I have said this many times.
Apparently the elitists who command that Yeshua NOT be used are elite over the English name.
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05-12-2011, 02:53 PM
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Re: Is It Wrong To Call Jesus Yeshua?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Agreed. And if MTD does not think it is wrong to say JESUS, then why not get away from the appearance of that and say Jesus as much as Yehshua?
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Mike,
I have been talking to you on the internet since 2000. I have possibly addressed you as much as anyone. You should know that this is already true. I am on record on this Forum using the name of Jesus probably thousands of times.
I sure cant figure WHY people think one is some elitist or WIERD as ab says just because you want to ALSO call Jesus by the name his mother, friends, and apostles called him by.
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05-12-2011, 02:58 PM
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Re: Is It Wrong To Call Jesus Yeshua?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
It only concerns me because often those that use it are the same ones that insist it's wrong to say "Jesus"
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This.
My point is, that we only have 1 record of what it was. And that was Jesus (in Greek). His actual Hebraic name has been lost (un-recorded), but we ASSUME that it would be something of "Jehovah Saves" or "has become salvation".
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05-12-2011, 03:09 PM
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Re: Is It Wrong To Call Jesus Yeshua?
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Originally Posted by NorCal
This.
My point is, that we only have 1 record of what it was. And that was Jesus (in Greek). His actual Hebraic name has been lost (un-recorded), but we ASSUME that it would be something of "Jehovah Saves" or "has become salvation".
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It is not Jesus in Greek. Jesus is the English transliteration of the Greek. So you feel that the name the Messiah was born with sanctioned by Gabriel the Angel is lost? So the Lord lost his own name? The one that is above every name? The only name under Heaven given among men whereby we must be saved?
Oh ok it just got lost.
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05-12-2011, 03:28 PM
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Re: Is It Wrong To Call Jesus Yeshua?
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
It is not Jesus in Greek. Jesus is the English transliteration of the Greek. So you feel that the name the Messiah was born with sanctioned by Gabriel the Angel is lost? So the Lord lost his own name? The one that is above every name? The only name under Heaven given among men whereby we must be saved?
Oh ok it just got lost.
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Now it comes out! THIS is the issue at long last. THAT is why we NOW believe you are wrong. It DOES matter to you. Your whole concept of the proper pronunciation from a certain language is based upon insistence that the NAME be not lost, which is not the case whatsoever. It is yet another example of OUTWARD EMPHASIS -- something the flesh can relate to in terms of sound waves or ink on paper or pixels on screens.
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Last edited by mfblume; 05-12-2011 at 04:15 PM.
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