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Old 05-17-2011, 03:19 PM
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Re: Where do I Belong? Part II

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Every word of the Bible is important...we need to pray that we will have the wisdom to rightly divide it...
Why does God's word need to be "divided". Never understood the application of that word. What about the wisdom to rightly "unify" God's word? Even that doesn't make sense.
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Old 05-17-2011, 03:41 PM
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Why does God's word need to be "divided". Never understood the application of that word. What about the wisdom to rightly "unify" God's word? Even that doesn't make sense.
KJV 2Ti 2:15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
NET 2Ti 2:15 Make every effort to present yourself before God as a proven worker who does not need to be ashamed, teaching the message of truth accurately.

The word there in 1Tim means

Accurately is a figure of speech that literally means something like "cutting a straight road." In regard to the message of truth, it means "correctly handling" or "imparting it without deviation.

Another reason why I don't like the KJV. Thanks for bringing this up
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Re: Where do I Belong? Part II

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KJV 2Ti 2:15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
NET 2Ti 2:15 Make every effort to present yourself before God as a proven worker who does not need to be ashamed, teaching the message of truth accurately.

The word there in 1Tim means

Accurately is a figure of speech that literally means something like "cutting a straight road." In regard to the message of truth, it means "correctly handling" or "imparting it without deviation.

Another reason why I don't like the KJV. Thanks for bringing this up
I like it because the word meanings are much more expressive, like Spanish. It has a deeper feel and I like that. For instance, in Spanish - Thank you is "de nada" - meaning, "It is nothing."

Much more expressive in the KJV and I love it!
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Adam is a good example of why I don't and why I don't think it is more expressive but confusing. The greek might be more expressive but the KJV attempt at translation in our modern english world is not
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Adam is a good example of why I don't and why I don't think it is more expressive but confusing. The greek might be more expressive but the KJV attempt at translation in our modern english world is not
IMO, the larger percentage of the text is good. I don't have a problem with it. Sometimes I use other translations to get a better idea of what is being said, but, overall, I don't need to do that. It's written on a fifth grade reading level, maybe that has something to do with it.
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