Hell is Unexplainable?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by crakjak

For me

glad

To me

happy

if he loves

human love

happy

The above is a perfect example of why UR is a fallacy. It relies not on scriptures but on emotional appeal and personal opinion

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The above is a perfect example of why UR is a fallacy. It relies not on scriptures but on emotional appeal and personal opinion

Funny how you imply that the emotion of a person is a bad gauge for understanding God's idea regarding human life. Where in the World do you think we acquired our emotion????

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Funny how you imply that the emotion of a person is a bad gauge for understanding God's idea regarding human life. Where in the World do you think we acquired our emotion????

Truth is not based on feelings. It's based on what God said. "Well I feel that God is like" is not a valid way of knowing what God is like...if you want to know what God is like, you read what God says

Appealing to emotions is a classic logical fallacy. When people get emotional about a subject they tend to also become subjective, because emotions are subjective. People can hear about someone being arrested for a horrendous murder and based on their emotion feel that person is guilty before even seeing the facts.

In the opening post not one verse was quoted. Instead several attempts to appeal to your emotions, rather than your intellect, was made.

That is the usual UR argument.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Truth is not based on feelings. It's based on what God said. "Well I feel that God is like" is not a valid way of knowing what God is like...if you want to know what God is like, you read what God says

Appealing to emotions is a classic logical fallacy. When people get emotional about a subject they tend to also become subjective, because emotions are subjective. People can hear about someone being arrested for a horrendous murder and based on their emotion feel that person is guilty before even seeing the facts.

In the opening post not one verse was quoted. Instead several attempts to appeal to your emotions, rather than your intellect, was made.

That is the usual UR argument.

Prax, you know as well as I do that the Apostolic Church is drunk on emotion. We use feeling and emotion more than any other Faith, and we are guilty of driving people into a false idea because they "Feel God". People rolling on the ground and screaming is illogical emotion.

If we’re going to attack emotion, let’s go to the nuts and bolts of our Religion, where the abuse of emotion is real.

When God is portrayed as our Father in Scripture, and we are His sons and daughters, I can logically understand this relationship because I've been married for 31 years and have raised 3 children. This type of emotion, centered on love and forgiveness, is what God gave us when He created us.

This is why Hell, in the aspect of torture for Eternity, does not make sense to a father and mother who love their children, even when they fail or make mistakes. I don't understand a Father who would cast His failing children into a caldron of vicious, unending torment because life didn't turn out like they expected.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Prax, you know as well as I do that the Apostolic Church is drunk on emotion. We use feeling and emotion more than any other Faith, and we are guilty of driving people into a false idea because they "Feel God". People rolling on the ground and screaming is illogical emotion.

If we’re going to attack emotion, let’s go to the nuts and bolts of our Religion, where the abuse of emotion is real.

When God is portrayed as our Father in Scripture, and we are His sons and daughters, I can logically understand this relationship because I've been married for 31 years and have raised 3 children. This type of emotion, centered on love and forgiveness, is what God gave us when He created us.

This is why Hell, in the aspect of torture for Eternity, does not make sense to a father and mother who love their children, even when they fail or make mistakes. I don't understand a Father who would cast His failing children into a caldron of vicious, unending torment because life didn't turn out like they expected.

Im not attacking emotions. If that is what you thought, then you never understood either of my two posts.

I appeal to what the bible says about the topic. Universal Reconcilliationists appeal to their feelings. Rather than accepting what the bible says they filter what the bible says and interpret it based on their emotions.

A lot of people have entered into abusive relationships because they went by their feelings and not by objective facts. People can tell them till blue in the fact that relationship is bad for them but because they have these feelings they will not look at the facts or the facts will become colored by how they feel.

Feelings are great, but they can cause us to be subjective rather than objective

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The above is a perfect example of why UR is a fallacy. It relies not on scriptures but on emotional appeal and personal opinion

Bingo!

[vrblackwell]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Bingo!

I posted a link that has plenty of scripture. There is as much scripture, if not more for annihilationism as there is for eternal torment.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by vrblackwell

I posted a link that has plenty of scripture. There is as much scripture, if not more for annihilationism as there is for eternal torment.

what link? where?

[vrblackwell]

http://ekklesiahellweek.wordpress.co...-by-greg-boyd/

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by vrblackwell

I posted a link that has plenty of scripture. There is as much scripture, if not more for annihilationism as there is for eternal torment.

I was referring to prax's post as to how UR runs on emotive bases rather than scripture. Why did you feel it dealt with annihilationism?

PS: that is one eerie avatar of yours. Phew.