Are Infants Really Born Sinless?

[Jacob's Ladder]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Mat 9:12 But when he heard it, he said, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick.
Mat 9:13 Go and learn what this means, 'I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.' For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners."

So Jesus didn't come for the babies because they're sinless and already saved, yes?

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

So Jesus didn't come for the babies because they're sinless and already saved, yes?

well who is condeming them? what law in the bible is condeming them?

again Jesus came to fullfill the Law, yet what commandment has that baby broken, again you dont answer this as well

[Jacob's Ladder]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

So then pretty much everything I learned is correct, yes?

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Mat 9:12 But when he heard it, he said, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick.
Mat 9:13 Go and learn what this means, 'I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.' For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners."

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

So Jesus didn't come for the babies because they're sinless and already saved, yes?

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Praxeas,

Furthermore, would you agree that babies are sinless and also "saved," and then when they reach a level of understanding they become "lost", but they when they obey Acts 2:38 they become saved again?

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

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Praxeas,

Furthermore, would you agree that babies are sinless and also "saved," and then when they reach a level of understanding they become "lost", but they when they obey Acts 2:38 they become saved again?

romans 7:9-11
Once I was alive apart from law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died.

I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death

For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death

so when did sin decieve a baby to break the law. Even paul mentions here i was alive then i died. For Sin decieved me and through the commandment put me to death.

[Jacob's Ladder]

Originally Posted by acerrak

romans 7:9-11
Once I was alive apart from law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died.

I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death

For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death

so when did sin decieve a baby to break the law. Even paul mentions here i was alive then i died. For Sin decieved me and through the commandment put me to death.

You might want to study that scripture out.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

You might want to study that scripture out.

i have i really cant get you to comment on these things so and when you do you dodge 99% of it .so moving on

again for our viewers
also God gave a commandment to go fourth and multiply

God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

Genesis 1:28. so again is God commanding them to sin by having babies, and is God creating sin himself while he formes the babies in the womb of the mother?

the answer of course is No

[Jacob's Ladder]

Originally Posted by acerrak

i have i really cant get you to comment on these things so and when you do you dodge 99% of it .so moving on

again for our viewers
also God gave a commandment to go fourth and multiply

God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

Genesis 1:28. so again is God commanding them to sin by having babies, and is God creating sin himself while he formes the babies in the womb of the mother?

the answer of course is No

You make no sense and have been avoiding all questions since day one.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

You make no sense and been avoiding all questions since day one.

i went into detail explaining your verses, i showed you the meaning behind them, and again you have not answered any of my questions that i have presented to you. expecially the ones about what sins have a baby committed.

so since im not gona get a reply from you dealing with that i have stopped addressing you, so i have decided to address the viewing audience.

I dont make since to you, and no i certainly have not avoided the questions, infact you have shrugged me off, and since i cant get a clear answer from you. i just decided not to deal with you straightly, but instead turn to the other readers on the forum to show them that your in error.