Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

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Pentecostals emphasize the evidence of tongues for the baptism of the Holy Ghost

Charismatics emphasize tongues as one of the 9 gifts only and that anyone can receive any of the gifts

Pentecostals generally too believe in the 9 gifts for church edification but have the peculiar doctrine of the baptism of the Spirit being evidenced by tongues

It is my own experience that most Charismatic Churches also believe the evidence doctrine.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

It is my own experience that most Charismatic Churches also believe the evidence doctrine.

Then they are not charismatic. Pentecostal refers to the doctrine of tongues being the evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost

If some group you claim are charismatic believe the evidence doctrine they they are really Pentecostal, not Charismatic.

The Charismatic renewal movement began long before some Ultra Con UPCer decided to label any pastor that dropped standards as "Charismatic"

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Then they are not charismatic. Pentecostal refers to the doctrine of tongues being the evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost

If some group you claim are charismatic believe the evidence doctrine they they are really Pentecostal, not Charismatic.

The Charismatic renewal movement began long before some Ultra Con UPCer decided to label any pastor that dropped standards as "Charismatic"

I fellowshipped among the Charismatic Movement from 1975-1984. I still will fellowship them to the extent they will fellowship me. I speak from personal experience on the Charismatic Movement. There are various beliefs among them. Some as you say hold tongues is merely one of nine gifts.

Many hold the same doctrine on tongues as Classic Pentecostals but differ on how to receive the baptism. The differences between Pentecostal and Charismatic are indeed becoming smaller.

Other issues have divided the two groups more than whether tongues is the initial evidence in the past. Things such as holiness issues and forms of worship.

I usually count myself as a Charismatic/Pentecostal when these kind of discussions come up.

[riverslivnwtr]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Then they are not charismatic. Pentecostal refers to the doctrine of tongues being the evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost

If some group you claim are charismatic believe the evidence doctrine they they are really Pentecostal, not Charismatic.

The Charismatic renewal movement began long before some Ultra Con UPCer decided to label any pastor that dropped standards as "Charismatic"

though I speak in tongues, my evidence is rivers of living water..
When I returned home the night I received , the Holy Spirit made me know that is was written in John 7:37-39..So i looked it up and Walaa it was there..
so the Holy Spirit had just done two things in one..he showed me where it was and later i realized what Jesus said about the Holy Spirit that when he is come , he would bring to my rememberance whatsoever I (Jesus) has said unto you..from chapter 14 I believe in the same book..

to me it's the rivers of living water...but I accept those who speak in tongues...I have come to understsand that the experience is equal to the level of the Word of God in you,,