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06-28-2011, 07:09 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
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No offense, but I don't find anywhere in Scripture that support a "partial salvation". You're either in the Kingdom of Jesus or in the Kingdom of darkness. I don't see any middle ground.
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Dont get me wrong. If one dies without having done what the Apostles taught they should not expect salvation. I refer to ones journey starting from the beginning. They have that time to make things complete. If they dont there is no partial salvation. They will be lost far as I can tell from scripture.
Same as one who has repented, been baptized and filled with the spirit. If in the end their works are not perfect their name is blotted out of the book of life Rev. 3:5
So our salvation is only final when we endure to the end.
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06-28-2011, 07:12 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
I think when you sincerely give your life to Jesus and leave your own path, you are saved at that point. Then I think there are things to do to follow through with God's plan, but I don't think you're any more saved than you are at that initial conversion.
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06-28-2011, 07:15 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
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I think when you sincerely give your life to Jesus and leave your own path, you are saved at that point. Then I think there are things to do to follow through with God's plan, but I don't think you're any more saved than you are at that initial conversion.
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They have confused "salvation" with "things that accompany salvation!"
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06-28-2011, 07:49 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
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I think when you sincerely give your life to Jesus and leave your own path, you are saved at that point. Then I think there are things to do to follow through with God's plan, but I don't think you're any more saved than you are at that initial conversion.
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What do you mean by giving your life to Jesus and leaving your path? Would that include putting him on in baptism? Receiving his Spirit?
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06-29-2011, 07:54 AM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
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What do you mean by giving your life to Jesus and leaving your path? Would that include putting him on in baptism? Receiving his Spirit?
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True repentance!! Changing your mind and changing your direction. Headed God's way, rather than your own way.
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06-29-2011, 02:30 PM
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True repentance!! Changing your mind and changing your direction. Headed God's way, rather than your own way.
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Yet Paul said if any man have not the Spirit of Christ he is none of his. Rom. 8:9
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06-29-2011, 02:35 PM
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Yet Paul said if any man have not the Spirit of Christ he is none of his. Rom. 8:9
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I believe you have the Spirit of Christ when you give your life over to Him. I think there is a difference in this and the baptism in the Holy Spirit.
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06-29-2011, 03:54 PM
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06-29-2011, 04:49 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
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I believe you have the Spirit of Christ when you give your life over to Him. I think there is a difference in this and the baptism in the Holy Spirit.
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So the Trinity lives in us? Father, Son and Spirit?
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06-29-2011, 04:48 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
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True repentance!! Changing your mind and changing your direction. Headed God's way, rather than your own way.
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The Spirit draws you to repentance, the Law tells you why you need to repent. Without one, the other is useless.
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