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Old 07-29-2011, 06:19 AM
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Re: Why do We Romanticize Foreign Missions?

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well, maybe they should come walk in our shoes...and us go walk in their shoes...exchange sometimes helps people understand things better.
In all truth, I wish I could take 6 months and go into the jungles of Brazil, and preach along side other missionaries. Financially, right now, that is not possible. But, I love your work and spirit, and I pray sincerely that God would protect, bless, keep, and strengthen you in the work.
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:35 AM
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In all truth, I wish I could take 6 months and go into the jungles of Brazil, and preach along side other missionaries. Financially, right now, that is not possible. But, I love your work and spirit, and I pray sincerely that God would protect, bless, keep, and strengthen you in the work.
Thank you...I honor today Brother and Sister DeMerchant...that have spent many many years in the jungle areas of Brazil. I honor my oldest son that works along the Jungle areas in the state of Maranhao Brazil and daily faces many dangers.
I honor those that support foreign and home missionaries all over the world.

And my friend...our home is open anytime for you to come visit....and the jungle work my son would be glad for help anytime.
Thank you for your kind words.
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:37 AM
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Re: Why do We Romanticize Foreign Missions?

I guess I am guilty of romanticizing foreign missions, if thatīs what you want to call it. I have such a love for the nations and I could move overseas in a heartbeat, but for some reason God has us in Tennessee, and I have no doubts that itīs where we are supposed to be. So why did God put such a missions heart in me? Iīve asked myself that over and over and over.

I believe that for now my calling is to be a source of supply for missions, as much as possible. Some people are called to be trench people and some are to be supply people. Although I am willing to be in the trenches, I am for now supposed to be on the other end. And I will do my best to reach the nations through giving. If God ever says to GO, we will go.

But periodically I will go to the nations also. I am the Missions Director for our ministry (over all the U.S. churches), so YES, I do go alot. I donīt apologize for that and yes, I do accrue a lot of airline miles. I have gone places and slept in nasty hotels and eaten strange foods and not understood anyone around me.

I greatly admire missionaries, because no matter how you try to compare foreign missions to home missions, there is a huge difference. Here in Brazil, we have gone to little village churches in very dangerous places and every night I have to pray that no one decides to break into the house. The mindset of poverty has to be broken and the spiritual warfare is huge. I know that home missionaries in the U.S. face some of these things, but itīs a different level, and also they donīt have to leave their country and families and go thousands of miles away from security.

And we have been church planters, so I know what Iīm talking about. We planted this church in Jackson ten years ago.

Anyway, I appreciate anyone who goes to a mission field - whether at home or abroad, but I still donīt think you can compare the two. Some people have a burden for home missions and some for foreign. Thereīs nothing wrong with either. My heart just happens to be with the nations.
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:54 AM
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My point is that they are not anywhere near 100% universal...which is why you have to be careful when you make blanket statements like "Foreign Missions is romanticized" and "Home missionaries are treated badly".
As written, those read as universal blanket statement, and do not read well with those who know them not to be universally true.
Well, I am going to have to disagree with you there. I do think they are generally true. I was a home missionary for 5 years. The implication that I do not know the statement to be true is kind of laughable. I do believe the statements are generally true or I would not have made them.

I also think that most foreign missionaries do not feel a sense of entitlement. But I have met some who do.
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:55 AM
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The people who attack missions are usually nothing more than carnal wolves in sheep's clothing, hating the work of God, and jealous of the supernatural work God is doing in the lives and through the lives of missionaries. I know I may be in the minority on the following, but I believe every man/woman/it who attacks missionaries on forums should be banned for doing so.
Free dialogue should never be banned. It is the way people grow.
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Old 07-29-2011, 09:43 AM
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Well, I am going to have to disagree with you there. I do think they are generally true. I was a home missionary for 5 years. The implication that I do not know the statement to be true is kind of laughable. I do believe the statements are generally true or I would not have made them.

I also think that most foreign missionaries do not feel a sense of entitlement. But I have met some who do.
I'm just saying that the key statements in your post are "I do think" and "I do believe". Just so you know that that does not make those statements generally true. I also have pretty extensive perspective from both the Home Missions and Foreign Missions sides.
Are there some foreign missionaries who feel entitled? I would imagine so. Not because I know any, but because I know that in any group of people (Home missionaries included) you're going to run into a whole gamut of personality flaws.
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Old 07-29-2011, 10:02 AM
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Do most foreign or home missionaries work jobs wherever they are? Or do they rely on others to support them?
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Old 07-29-2011, 10:15 AM
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Do most foreign or home missionaries work jobs wherever they are? Or do they rely on others to support them?
I believe AIM missionaries are the only ones who work jobs, though that probably depends on the country (like if you can't get in as a "missionary"). That's my experience.

I would imagine roughly 100% of home missionaries work jobs
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Do most foreign or home missionaries work jobs wherever they are? Or do they rely on others to support them?
The ones I know the best do not work a secular job outside of operating the works in the country (nor would they be able to...at all). I do know some full time missionaries who are able to do things outside of strictly operating the work. I guess some of it depends on the country's situation and the size and scope of the work.
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Do most foreign or home missionaries work jobs wherever they are? Or do they rely on others to support them?
Most home missionaries work jobs. Foreign missionaries are fully supported.

Not only are foreign missionaries fully supported with a great salary and benefits, they also receive a lot of funding to build facilities.

Home missionaries, on the other hand, are mostly on their own. Metro missions pays a small portion of HM pastors salaries, and there are loan programs, like church in a day, that helps with facility costs. However, these programs are tiny compared to foreign missions.

Mostly, home missionaries are on their own. They have to be full time secular workers, and full time pastors, all while trying to build a congregation and facility in an increasingly secular and anti-Christian society which doesn't trust them.
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