Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?

HRea · #1 08-13-2011, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

But there is record, in that they were disciples of John, and John baptized his disciples.

No, the record show that only one (Andrew) could be identified as a disciple of John, not all of them, unless I'm missing the scripture that your using to conclude that they were disciples of John. If you would post the scripture, then I'm willing to concede the point on them being John's disciples and baptized unto repentance. As far as being baptized in Jesus' name, that's another matter entirely.

The point I'm making is this: simply because there is no record doesn't prove something did or did not happen.

Truthseeker · #2 08-13-2011, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HRea

No, the record show that only one (Andrew) could be identified as a disciple of John, not all of them, unless I'm missing the scripture that your using to conclude that they were disciples of John. If you would post the scripture, then I'm willing to concede the point on them being John's disciples and baptized unto repentance. As far as being baptized in Jesus' name, that's another matter entirely.

The point I'm making is this: simply because there is no record doesn't prove something did or did not happen.

even so , there is an actual command in NT for baptism while not one for tithes.

mfblume · #3 08-13-2011, 05:27 PM

Without the curse aspect, nothing is wrong with tithing whatsoever.

HRea · #4 08-15-2011, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Without the curse aspect, nothing is wrong with tithing whatsoever.

Consider this: tithing with any strings attached (whether to avoid a curse or to obtain a blessing) is wrong; the entire focus of our attitude in tithing is to honor God. Any string attached to the tithe brings the focus back to the giver.

LadyRev · #5 08-15-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HRea

Consider this: tithing with any strings attached (whether to avoid a curse or to obtain a blessing) is wrong; the entire focus of our attitude in tithing is to honor God. Any string attached to the tithe brings the focus back to the giver.

This line of thinking could be applied to alot of things. Including...

If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.

Because there are "strings" attached and the focus will be brought back to the one doing the praying, should we assume its wrong to pray, wrong to ask?
I don't think so.

I'm glad I serve a God that keeps His word! Even sinners are blessed! Even sinners receive answers! We don't have to be perfect in order for God to honor His word.

mfblume · #6 08-15-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HRea

Consider this: tithing with any strings attached (whether to avoid a curse or to obtain a blessing) is wrong; the entire focus of our attitude in tithing is to honor God. Any string attached to the tithe brings the focus back to the giver.

But it is biblically encouraged to give in order to be blessed.

Rudy · #7 08-15-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

But it is biblically encouraged to give in order to be blessed.

Bro. I'm not trying to pick-apart your post here. But God has blessed humanity long before a red penny was ever given. I know you know this but if a new convert was reading that one could be drawn into money =s blessing only. I was born with all my limbs, and a sound mind. Food, shelter and clothing I had and have. The blessings of God shower the just & the unjust.

mfblume · #8 08-15-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy

Bro. I'm not trying to pick-apart your post here. But God has blessed humanity long before a red penny was ever given. I know you know this but if a new convert was reading that one could be drawn into money =s blessing only. I was born with all my limbs, and a sound mind. Food, shelter and clothing I had and have. The blessings of God shower the just & the unjust.

The bible says giving promises a blessing - pressed down, shaken up and running over. No one would think I meant only giving awards blessings. Let's allow the Word to speak.