Crossdressing...Just how does a woman participate?

[Narrow Is The Way]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

do you know what that means? It means they did not wear pants. If the wore pants they would not HAVE to gird up their loins

Prax. This is a spiritual application. He wasn't telling him to do anything about his physical garment, but within the application we see how the Lord sees how a man wears his garment.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way

Prax. This is a spiritual application. He wasn't telling him to do anything about his physical garment, but within the application we see how the Lord sees how a man wears his garment.

If it's a "spiritual" application then it has nothing to do with how he wears his clothing

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

If it's a "spiritual" application then it has nothing to do with how he wears his clothing

He is confusing his thoughts with wrong words, and trying to say that girding loins to divide the legs freely from an encumbering garment, like pants accomplish, is associated with men and not women. But he flubbed big-time trying to say that by saying it is a "SPIRITUAL" application. It's not spiritual. But that sort of confusion with terms is exactly why such people confuse entire biblical statements and verses into the silly traditions they hold. WORDS are problems to them. The fact is the passage is speaking of WARRIOR-LIKE situations, where girding up loins was common to warriors ready to FIGHT, not simply the silly idea of men ready to walk around in public. lol

[Narrow Is The Way]

Originally Posted by mfblume

He is confusing his thoughts with wrong words, and trying to say that girding loins to divide the legs freely from an encumbering garment, like pants accomplish, is associated with men and not women. But he flubbed big-time trying to say that by saying it is a "SPIRITUAL" application. It's not spiritual. But that sort of confusion with terms is exactly why such people confuse entire biblical statements and verses into the silly traditions they hold. WORDS are problems to them. The fact is the passage is speaking of WARRIOR-LIKE situations, where girding up loins was common to warriors ready to FIGHT, not simply the silly idea of men ready to walk around in public. lol

I would say that A Christian man is a Valiant and Warrior like Man.

We aren't just men. That's the problem with your logic.

We are in the fight of our life. Our soul.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way

I would say that A Christian man is a Valiant and Warrior like Man.

We aren't just men. That's the problem with your logic.

We are in the fight of our life. Our soul.

Oh, and women aren't in the fight of their lives? Their souls? Problem with MY logic? You are making things up as you go along. lol.

So, according to you, men are in salvation because they are FIGHTING, while women have nothing to do with FIGHTING the fight of faith. Women do not have to fight for their souls, for it's only the fight of MEN'S LIVES/SOULS. No wonder you believe what you do.

[Narrow Is The Way]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Oh, and women aren't in the fight of their lives? Their souls? Problem with MY logic? You are making things up as you go along. lol.

So, according to you, men are in salvation because they are FIGHTING, while women have nothing to do with FIGHTING the fight of faith. Women do not have to fight for their souls, for it's only the fight of MEN'S LIVES/SOULS. No wonder you believe what you do.

No no no no you have missed it again. It is referring to a male. A male warrior, a valiant MAN. That is the whole problem, you don't know the difference between a man and a woman. God made them different, but you are allowing for them to dress the same.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way

No no no no you have missed it again. It is referring to a male. A male warrior, a valiant MAN. That is the whole problem, you don't know the difference between a man and a woman. God made them different, but you are allowing for them to dress the same.

Just like God did in the Garden of Eden?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way

No no no no you have missed it again. It is referring to a male. A male warrior, a valiant MAN. That is the whole problem, you don't know the difference between a man and a woman. God made them different, but you are allowing for them to dress the same.

This would have been a good argument if the discussion was gender ROLES and not gender clothing

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way

No no no no you have missed it again. It is referring to a male. A male warrior, a valiant MAN. That is the whole problem, you don't know the difference between a man and a woman. God made them different, but you are allowing for them to dress the same.

You are not even following through on your own logic. you pretended you always knew MAN in the verse you quoted meant WARRIOR or VALIANT man. Then you added the thought that MEN are in the fight for their souls to support your logic, which was simply grasping at straws to prove your point. So I pointed out the fallacy of your logic.

You said that MEN gird their loins, which is analogous to wearing pants, and not women. So, when you said MEN are in the fight for their souls, you implied several silly things.

(1) Since MEN fight for their souls...
(2) And since the verse speaking about MEN fighting for souls implies MEN wear pants...
(3) Then Women must not be fighting for their souls if they are not to gird up their loins.

For you to say God made man and woman differently is to change your whole argument of using this verse to prove women should not wear pants. You are becoming as confused and convoluted as that silly parable of confused bible stories I posted in the thread entitled "Can YOU answer this question? (Deep one)."

[Narrow Is The Way]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

If it's a "spiritual" application then it has nothing to do with how he wears his clothing

You highlighted the wrong portion, read the end of that post. Within the application we see how the Lord wants a man is to wear his garment. "LIKE A MAN" not like some men, like a man.